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Did Ann Coulter 'Really Go Too Far' This Time? Today Show Asks
CNSNews ^ | October 12, 2007 | Susan Jones

Posted on 10/12/2007 8:55:24 PM PDT by Quiet Man Jr.

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To: Bogtrotter52
I just don't know why she didn't make the point that you can be Jewish and still believe in Jesus. Far as I know, there is no prohibition in Christianity about retaining Jewish customs, etc.

Now Islam and Christianity are mutually exclusive. You can't be both, logically. But Judaism? Not a problem. So she wasn't saying "There should be no more Jews," just that they should add belief in Jesus to their religious repertoire.

And if she'd said that, I think he'd have been unable to manufacture all that outrage.

61 posted on 10/13/2007 2:25:50 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Quiet Man Jr.
60+ posts without the rules being followed....pathetic.


62 posted on 10/13/2007 4:06:20 AM PDT by chemicalman (I didn't jump on the bandwagon. It snagged and dragged me for a few miles.)
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To: Quiet Man Jr.
a place filled with "happy" people who are "Christian" and "tolerant" and who "defend America"

Oh the irony of it all, when read in context with the article as a whole.

63 posted on 10/13/2007 4:08:50 AM PDT by Fraulein
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To: citizencon
Deutsch had set her up

That's what I saw when I read the transcript.

Deutschbag wanted her to slip up and she didn't and kept pressing her. Any limpbrained liberal would find it offensive and attack her.

64 posted on 10/13/2007 4:14:47 AM PDT by chemicalman (I didn't jump on the bandwagon. It snagged and dragged me for a few miles.)
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To: kbingham
A completed Jew is one who adds Jesus Christ to his life.

Prior to Jesus he is Jminus.

After Jesus he is Jcomplete.

In other words, Jesus is now part of his life.

65 posted on 10/13/2007 4:24:10 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: mogump
"What if Ann’s wish came true?
All Jews do voluntarily convert to Christianity.
Israel is dismantled and replaced
with a Christian state.
"

Answers from each of us depend on our beliefs about which men were prophets, and our beliefs about whether or not truth is mutable by way of metaphors and allegories.

For example, some fear rejecting the words behind the following (even words of minor prophets), and others avoid reading or comprehending them.

Zechariah 14:9
Malachi 3:6

IMO, we can't avoid the last war of all other nations against Israel, but we are choosing one side or the other.
66 posted on 10/13/2007 4:25:34 AM PDT by familyop
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To: Sir_Ed

beats me.


67 posted on 10/13/2007 7:31:09 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Quiet Man Jr.
I think we are missing the forest because of the trees.

We need to step back and look at what is really going on.

I believe Don Imus was just a test case to see if they can generate enough "public outcry" to silence a person they do not want heard.

It worked on Don Imus, and so they went after O'Rielly, and then Rush, and now Ann.

Instead of helping the socialist by arguing if (Don, Bill, Rush) Ann had a right to express their opinion, we should be pointing out what it is the left is doing.

So who are they going to go after next week? Sean? Savage?

We have allowed the left to create restrictions on free speech, now all they are doing is moving the lines closer so that anything they do not agree with, should be prohibited.

So if you are arguing any other point then Ann has a constitutional right to express her views (as opposed to the merits of her statement) you are agreeing with the left that freedom of speech has limits that go beyond yelling "fire" in a crowded room.

I am old enough to have seen the change in this country where freedom of speech has stretched to include naked girls dancing, pornography on street corners, and flag burning to list just a few.

During that same time I have seen the freedom of speech restricted in the area of public discussions. It has gotten to the point that whites are not allowed to make any comments about any minority without the risk of being labeled racist.

One reason why many problem we face in this country today is because of limits on free speech. Whites males are forbidden from any form of criticism towards a protected minority.

If you can not honestly discuss a problem, how then can it be solved?

That of course presume everyone wants the problems solved, and the truth is, there are some in our society who want the chaos that currently exist to continue.

So they gone after Don Imus and won.

They have gone after Bill O'rielly and lost

They have gone after Rush and Lost

They have gone after Ann and will lose

The question is, who will be the target next week?

Instead of debating or defending what is said, we should only defend the individual right of freedom of speech.

68 posted on 10/13/2007 7:52:57 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Quiet Man Jr.

she makes money for publisher = shes a-ok.


69 posted on 10/13/2007 7:55:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Quiet Man Jr.

The left keeps the ‘gone to far’ flames on medium to high. It’s how they keep folks mobilized - anger. This time next year? They will have all four burners on full blast. Conservatives will be eating baby flesh and lynching mulattos.


70 posted on 10/13/2007 7:58:55 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Quiet Man Jr.

Ann purposely makes absurd statements every time she launches a new book, so the resulting hysteria sells more books. It’s the Michael Moore approach and it works well. She is a multi-millionaire. It is just hilarious how FReepers line up every time to “explain” and defend what she says. Ann is just using you guys. Why not let HER explain these comments? Is she sending you a share of her millions in royalty checks?


71 posted on 10/13/2007 7:59:00 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Graybeard58
Notice the Some People tag that made perky Katie so popular. It looks like Merideth has the same writing staff.
72 posted on 10/13/2007 7:59:13 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: mogump
“I’ve never asked this question
on this forum but I will now.
What if Ann’s wish came true?
All Jews do voluntarily convert to Christianity.
Israel is dismantled and replaced
with a Christian state.

Would the world be a better or
worse place to live?

Just curious.”

Great question! This will happen at the return of Jesus, you know. If it were to happen now, what would happen?

The Christian Jews in Israel would try to convert the Palestinians and offer help to them. This is regardless of whatever policy the government adopts. I would expect this would have a major effect on peace on the West Bank and Gaza. I can’t imagine how the government in Israel would shift politically. I suppose Netanyahu’s party would emerge dominant.

The Christian Jews in the US would align themselves with devout Christians politically. This would have a major effect on our mass media, entertainment, and political systems.

It might be the end of the Democratic party, if all the Jews went to the Republicans, with their media and entertainment influence.

73 posted on 10/13/2007 8:05:12 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is at all comprehensible.)
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To: Quiet Man Jr.
Are you going to enter the conversation at any place on the thread you posted?

To not do so is the usual definition of a troll on FR.

Got your panties in a wad? Speak up and justify the offense.

74 posted on 10/13/2007 8:25:22 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Quiet Man Jr.
"Deutsch also expressed the opinion that people with controversial opinions will be heard less and less on the nation's airwaves, as fed-up viewers tune them out."

Gulp. Deutsch just made the case that he ought to be kicked off the airwaves. I went searching for Donny Deutsch's ratings but CNBC doesn't even make the MediaBistro/TVnewser's ratings for news channels. Let's just say, more people watch static on tv trying to find patterns, than watch Donny Deutsch.

75 posted on 10/13/2007 8:30:21 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: montag813

Here’s why we defend her: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1910631/posts#68

You gotta take a bigger view of things.


76 posted on 10/13/2007 8:52:43 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: mogump
You are asking the wrong questions. The focus is not on the here, now and material. You ask what if all Jews sincerely came to Jesus. The world wouldn't necessarily be a different place, it would still be ruled by the Prince of the earth. (Satan) - but those former Jews wouldn't be of it. They would certainly have changed, completely 100% born again. Life in the Spirit cannot really be described, only experienced. They would have the joy of knowing they are no longer slaves to sin and will have eternal life. The world may not be a better place but your little part of it would be.

Make no mistake, Israel WILL be a Christian state someday, ruled by Jesus Christ for 1000 years in the greatest period of peace and happiness the world has ever known. Wouldn't you like to be there?

77 posted on 10/13/2007 10:06:44 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: William Terrell

Terrell wrote, “Are you going to enter the conversation at any place on the thread you posted?
To not do so is the usual definition of a troll on FR.

Got your panties in a wad? Speak up and justify the offense.”

What are you talking about Terrell? What is the offense? Bringing the correct phrase to your attention? Having more important things to do than hanging out on FR all day, every day?

Well Terrell, in case you haven’t noticed, Ann Coulter can and does speak for herself. Since she is talented, smart and outspoken, the burden is on her to speak accurately and be accountable for her own actions. She doesn’t represent me or other Christians. She doesn’t represent me and other conservatives. She does a lot of harm.

While it can be a synonym to “completed,” “perfected” implies that Coulter thinks she and Christians are beyond reproach. Apparently that offends some people.

On the other hand, “completed” refers to those who practice Christianity, specifically Catholicism, in good faith, rather than the presuming perfection.

So there you have it, Terrell.


78 posted on 10/14/2007 6:40:16 PM PDT by Quiet Man Jr.
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To: Quiet Man Jr.
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise."

I don't think it's about Jews, or any other Israelite. It's about people.

I agree with you. "Completed" is the proper word, but only so long as, with the missing part inserted, you cease being a Jew, or any other Israelite, and become a Christian.

79 posted on 10/14/2007 7:31:11 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Several months ago, Hugh Hewitt announced that Ann Coulter was no longer welcome on his show.

Hewitt has lived west of Interstate 5 for far too long, it's affecting his fortitude.

80 posted on 10/14/2007 7:37:39 PM PDT by Vision Thing (The liberal Holy Trinity: big government, hollywood, and the globe.)
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