Posted on 10/11/2007 4:33:54 PM PDT by cowboy_code
BTTT
Horrendous, despicable, unconscionable are a few sentiments that come to mind. Wonder if the American Legion was contacted? The Indian community would be outraged if they knew this. The city probably has not felt a wrath like theirs. Perhaps it is time.
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I loved the historical aspects of the place even as a kid. It was also a fine place for birdwatching.
Once the city built the rec building and ripped out all the tombstones, and many of the trees and bushes it lost all of its charm. It's become a dreary place,indeed, what with its dog rutted Bermuda grass lawn and shabby 1960's Rec Center adjacent to it.
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Is there an article in the Ventura County Star about this?
Yes, in a way. In the Ventura County Star’s Your News community writer’s area, (dated April 1st) there is an article about the St Marys group confronting Cardinal Mahony at Ventura’ Mission 225th anniversary lunch. I don’t have the link, try google.
St Marys group: wholeheartedly, encourage everyone to take part in demanding the restoration of these 3,000 graves by simply sending an email expressing your disgust and anger to one or all of the below addresses. You probably won’t get a reply from any of the Council members or from the City employees, but you will get a blessing from above for doing God’s work!:
City Manager: Rick Cole
rcole@ci.ventura.ca.us
City Council: Mayor Morehouse, Weir, Fulton, Brennan, Monahan, Andrews and Summers
citycouncil@ci.ventura.ca.us
City Park’s Manager: Mike Montoya
mmontoya@ci.ventura.ca.us
Ventura County Star Editor:
letters@venturacountystar.com
Op/Ed Editor of the Ventura County Star:
MRatcliff@venturacountystar.com
Editor of the Ojai-Ventura Voice:
editor@ov-voice.net
Found it. Here is that article LINK:
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/apr/01/venturas-desecrated-st-mary-cemetery-activists/
At the time that this happened, it would have appeared in the “Ventura Star Free Press”, other wise know as the “Red Star”.
BTTT!!!
Just saw a story on the news Friday night. A headstone showed up by a dumpster—1600 pounds of granite. A concerned citizen took the time to find out where it was from, and turns out it was from this cemetery. This issue is not going to go away quietly. Stay tuned.
Let’s keep this going and work together to find a solution to this matter. The 3000 buried in the dog urinal and toilet must be honored.
here is the latest disappointing Ventura city council bureaucratic redtape meeting where this issue is still being somewhat addressed.
Cemetery’s $250K Watered Down Scam.
The coming CEQA and the “Enviromental Impact Report” is the hill on which we fight, but to get your blood pumping, you might want to watch this most shameful and morally corrupt bunch of elected city officials.
It’s just shy of 2 hours, but very insightful into our modern secular world.
If we are extremists, as they say, for wanting to restore the cemetery to it’s original state, then they must admit that originally removing the headstones and desecrating the cemetery was an extreme action.
If wanting to restore the dignity and respect to the graves of our ancestors is an extremist view point, what do you call a city council and dog people that demand and encourage the daily desecration of these same graves?
Why are such godless fools deciding the fate of the most sacred religious burial grounds in our town, besides the Mission Cemetery?
“cut & paste LINK into your browser.
http://cityofventura.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=545
Local TV cable show on this sad cemetery matter- Kalifornia Kaleidoscope- LINK:
“cut & paste LINK into your browser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQDh5QQHhNg
Thanks for that....watched the one cable segment...
Over 100 Civil War and Spanish American War Vets, including 2 Congressional Medal of Honor Recipients being incredibly disrespected to the yuppies can have a place for their dogs to $h!t!!!!
OUTRAGEOUS!
This can not and will not stand.
I have contacted the Congressional Medal Of Honor Society and am waiting for a response. Don’t know if that route has been tried before.
THANK YOU.
That’s a great idea...MoH society.
Everything has to be accessed and tried to FIGHT Ventura City. I would like many people to get active on this if possible. Local Freepers should be interested and help, if they can. There was a extra large turn-out at our local July 4th Tax Revolt events here, over 3,500 persons. I wonder how many of those folks know what buried pioneers and vets graves are suffering with for 50 years.... resting in a 50 year old dog toilet ??!!!!???
PS..I would like to keep this Ventura: RESTORE St Marys cemetery exchange for others to see and get more involved. But, I can share my email with you if you PM me here.
Some of my friends have been up to scope out the park. There is movement afoot to hunt down any descendants of Pvt. Sumner and identify the vets and their descendants.
At this point, I think the quickest stop-gap measure would be to force the city to at least fence off and protect the cemetery. Any chance we could get some quotes on how much money it would cost to do that? I don’t think it would cost much, and maybe we could get some donations for that to take that argument away from the city council.
But then again, I don’t think cost is the real issue for the city...
More good stuff. Keep up your good work.
We got some Vet groups to sponsor buying or collecting the vet headstones. They cannot pay for the planting of the headstones on the property. That requires the city.
Maybe if ideas come from another new enthusiastic person from a large well-known vigorous group as yours, baby steps as cemetery fencing by donations will start a small crack in the city’s monolith holding back needed & overdue corrections.
The city gets hung-up on trivial miniscule matters, that causes any progress to be stopped. *Watch the city council video I sent you to see a good example for the red-tape stangle any decent progress.
PING..Hi Heels.
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