Posted on 10/11/2007 2:41:12 PM PDT by Lorianne
You're probably correct, Bubba. I have no ox in this argument, but some newspapers of the time spelled the name Quantrell. See: New York Times and Richmond Dispatch. My hard copy of Frank Leslie's Illustrated Newspaper spelled it Quantrell also. The Official Records, on the other hand, spelled it Quantrill.
Newspapers are not necessarily great arbiters of spelling. The NYT, for example, consistently spelled Fort Sumter as Fort Sumpter.
The Richmond article mentions something I'd never heard before, that Quantrell/Quantrill was a Jayhawker for a year.
IF you are really as clueLESS/ignorant/arrogant/BIGOTED/stupid as you post:
1. your mere presence is a HUMILATION to EVERY decent FReeper, but
2. you damage the DAMNyankee/unionist/REVISIONIST cause with every post that you spew out onto this forum, such that you (UNknowingly/UNwittingly)serve dixie LIBERTY.
thus i'm conflicted.
free dixie,sw
No, no, no. I'm saying that you call others liars but are a shameless liar yourself. You accuse others of hatred but are yourself a hopeless bigot. And I do believe that you are a fool without either honor or decency. Is that clear enough for you?
i'm "allowed" (as a "family member") to sometimes use a hospital PC, so i'll "be around" FR more than i originally thought.
THANKS for the prayers on their behalf. prayers HEAL!
free dixie,sw
was BANNED forever from FR &
ADMITTED to committing a CRIME to try to win an argument on an FR thread???
shame on you, N-S.
free dixie,sw
There's a good discussion of the Quantrill vs. Quantrell controversy here (hardly an anti-Quantrill site, by the way). The short version is that a young lady named Annie Fickle made them a flag and mispelled the name on it, but out of respect and appreciation to her generosity, they didn't correct it.
The Richmond article mentions something I'd never heard before, that Quantrell/Quantrill was a Jayhawker for a year.
Yeah, you might want to take that with a grain of salt. The story about heading out to California and his brother getting killed was a fabrication by Quantrill, who insisted that all his men had to have a personal revenge motive to ride with him, but it's all Quantrill trying to create his legend. The truth is that of Quantrill's three siblings who lived to adulthood, none were killed in Kansas. According to an 1888 article in the Louisville Courier-Journal (quoted in Quantrill and the Border Wars (1909) pg. 29, Quantrilll's mother showed off the family bible and said:
"We had eight children in all, but four of them died in their infancy. Here, in the old Bible in which the records were kept, you see the names and dates. The records were all made by my husband, and I have never written a lline in the old Bible since his death, which accounts for the balance not being in. Only one of my children is still alive. Thomson lives in Montana, where he has a family and is doing well. My daughter Mary died in 1863. She was never married. My son Franklin died six years ago, leaving his wife and four daughters, two of whom are now grown. One is a teacher at Canal Dover."
Hart (alias Quantrell) Arrested
April 5, 1861; Daily Times (Leavenworth, Kansas)
The Osawatomie Herald notices the arrest of Hart, alias Quantrell, who has made himself somewhat notorious as a thief and kidnapper. It was he who persuaded three young men to engage in a slave-conspiracy, at Independence, last winter, and betrayed them into the hands of the authorities.
The Herald does not state what is the nature of the charge now preferred against him. He has been lodged in jail, to await his trial.
This caused me to check in an old book a friend had given me, Civil War on the Western Border, 1854-1865, by Jay Monaghan. In it I found the following:
He [rb: Quantrill] posed as a free-stateman in Kansas and a pro-slavery man in Missouri. In Lawrence he was known as Charles Hart, a loafer around the ferry, wrestling, drinking, picking up a dollar now and then on a horse or foot race along the sand bars. ... His real name was not Hart but Quantrill, and for the Morgan Walker escapade [rb: the affair mentioned in the newspaper article above, I think] he had enlisted a party of earnest Quakers -- natural abolitionists -- who had been deeply influenced by Pardee Butler's abolition sermons.
Yeah, the Morgan Walker raid was a bad piece of business. Quantrill had been bad news before, but that took it up to a whole new level.
Resolute Conservative, I hope you realize that Non-Sequitur Will Not be confused with FACTS, his mind is made up.
swattie! You never told us you had a brother! Who knew?
Except that there were no facts in post 78. Just Southron fairy tales.
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
pretty soon, you'll be as big of a JOKE to intelligent people as those two HATERS are.
free dixie,sw
"William Clarke Quantrell was born in New York City"--Stand Watie, 6.29.00
ADMIT who you "used to be" before you were BANNED FOREVER from FR,
TELL everyone about the CRIMINAL FRAUD that you ADMITTED committing to try to win an argument on FR (i'm sure that will REALLY impress everyone!) &
WHEN are you LEAVING the forum forever???
be sure & provide PROOF, as you are a known SERIAL LIAR, BIGOT & LOUD-mouth, whose "word of honor" is an oxymoron.
laughing AT you, FOOL (as most everyone on these threads does).
free dixie,sw
"William Clarke Quantrell was born in New York City"--Stand Watie, 6.29.00
expect to receive that series of questions every time you post on FR, until you do or you ADMIT that you are nothing more than a SERIAL LIAR, a BIGOT and a HATER of the south & southerners OR you leave FR forever.
laughing AT you, FOOL.(are you really so DENSE that you don't understand that you are just a sick joke to most of your readers & a source of HUMILATION to the rest of us???)
free dixie,sw
"did i say that COL Quantrell was BORN in NYC??? (i did NOT.):--Stand Watie, 10.13.07"William Clarke Quantrell was born in New York City"--Stand Watie, 6.29.00
and we note that you don't have THE GUTS to TRUTHFULLY/directly answer the questions i asked you.
laughing AT you, FOOL.
free dixie,sw
See, I don’t know that. I only have you telling me that, and since so many things you say have turned out to be lies, I have little faith that you’re telling the truth this time. On the other hand, I can find all sorts of people telling you in a public forum that they think you’re a bigot, a liar, and an idiot.
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