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Science teacher's brush with police ends in heart attack
NY Daily News ^ | October 8th 2007 | JOHN MARZULLI

Posted on 10/08/2007 9:23:47 AM PDT by SubGeniusX

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To: driftdiver
You indicated they didn’t do anything wrong and this guy was just positioning for a lawsuit.

I believe you have me mixed up with someone else. I didn't make these claims.

401 posted on 10/09/2007 12:28:45 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: driftdiver
Why do cops always get a pass?

Being disciplined or fired is getting a pass? Um, okay.

If cops commit a crime they should be jailed.

I don't disagree. If this gentleman wants to press charges for assault, I say more power to him and good luck. I'd rather see that than see a multi-million dollar lawsuit. At least if charges are pressed, the cops who are at fault get the punishment, not the taxpayers.

402 posted on 10/09/2007 12:30:55 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

“Being disciplined or fired is getting a pass? Um, oka’

yes, if they commit a crime then they should be jailed. Firing a LEO for inappropiate physical threats and violence is not discipline. That is ensuring the LEOs are qualified for the job.

“If this gentleman wants to press charges for assault, I say more power to him and good luck. I’d rather see that than see a multi-million dollar lawsuit.”

I agree however those charges won’t go anywhere and the Cities will ignore anything that doesnt come with a million dollar price tag. They hide behind procedure and policy instead of doing the right thing.

“At least if charges are pressed, the cops who are at fault get the punishment, not the taxpayers”

Its the taxpayers fault for not paying enough attention to what their public servants are doing.


403 posted on 10/09/2007 12:41:31 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Glenn
Not everyone with heart disease has a heart attack.

That is true, but he wouldn't have open heart surgery unless he was having significant symptoms that would cause the doctor to do the testing required to determine surgery was needed.

In other words, the heart attack didn't do the damage that resulted in the surgery. There was already a problem with the heart. The heart attack was a symptom of it.

404 posted on 10/09/2007 2:34:28 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: driftdiver

So you really don’t think pressing charges against the officers is the proper thing to do. Better to sue for a bunch of money. Got it.


405 posted on 10/09/2007 2:35:41 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

“So you really don’t think pressing charges against the officers is the proper thing to do. Better to sue for a bunch of money. Got it.”

Thats not what I said. Press charges against them but that won’t change training or policy. The politicians won’t care if some ‘out of control’ cop gets put in jail.


406 posted on 10/09/2007 5:21:08 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: absalom01

Because a few brownshirts on this site refuse to consider any other alternative to what they are being spoonfed. They are emotion driven bigots with thought processes that are virtually nonexistent. If you write that the story is unclear, or perhaps the complainant has an axe to grind(like a lawsuit)or let’s see what comes out in the wash or anything except the cops are wrong, you are immediately labeled a bootlicker or a jackbooted thug ad infinitum, ad nauseum. In short, they have an agenda and nothing else will be tolerated. That is why I have labeled them brownshirts, because they behave exactly as those unprincipled, nonthinking thugs did in the 30s.


407 posted on 10/09/2007 7:24:49 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: driftdiver
Thats not what I said.

You said those charges won't go anywhere. If that's the case, why press charges?

You indicated that suing would punish the taxpayers for not paying enough attention to what their public servants are doing. It seemed you were implying that was the better option.

By the way, I didn't realize that spending taxpayer money in order to punish taxpayers was a conservative value.

408 posted on 10/09/2007 7:51:52 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
Seems like any time I read an article that claims police abuse, the names of the officers involved have been given.

That's because there has to be a pattern or a particularly egregious abuse to make it to print.

409 posted on 10/09/2007 7:55:07 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Sure glad we have you as an expert on heart attackas on this forum.


410 posted on 10/09/2007 8:03:53 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Scotsman will be Free

oh.

And here I thought that they were just a bunch of tweakers.


411 posted on 10/10/2007 12:01:46 AM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: MEGoody

“You indicated that suing would punish the taxpayers for not paying enough attention to what their public servants are doing. It seemed you were implying that was the better option.”

Assumptions are dangerous.

“By the way, I didn’t realize that spending taxpayer money in order to punish taxpayers was a conservative value.”

Holding elected officials responsible isn’t conservative? Threatening to address the issue in the next election is rarely effective. The collective memory isn’t long enough for people to remember things like this unless the election is around the corner.

A few letters to the mayor are ignored unless you are a major power player. Is there another effective way of getting our elected officials attention besides filing a lawsuit?


412 posted on 10/10/2007 3:34:24 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: elkfersupper

BS


413 posted on 10/10/2007 5:49:08 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: driftdiver
Holding elected officials responsible isn’t conservative?

Sure, but that wasn't what you said. You said the taxpayers should be punished for not keeping a closer eye on public servants.

414 posted on 10/10/2007 9:43:16 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
BS

What's really BS is that the cops get to investigate themselves when something happens.

415 posted on 10/10/2007 10:10:51 AM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: absalom01

LOL. I’m sure some of them are. I suspect a few, at least, are refugees from the now deceased “Reverend” Butler’s former aryan nations neo nazi compound that used to be located in northern Idaho.


416 posted on 10/10/2007 4:24:41 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: elkfersupper

I agree with you to a certain extent, in particular when it is a serious matter. Not for courtesy or dept regulation matters.


417 posted on 10/10/2007 4:26:03 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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