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Science teacher's brush with police ends in heart attack
NY Daily News ^ | October 8th 2007 | JOHN MARZULLI

Posted on 10/08/2007 9:23:47 AM PDT by SubGeniusX

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To: null and void
I'm willing to believe that the report was made in good faith.

I'd want to verify that. If in fact it was then I'd let it go. Security and privacy are far too important to not vigorously defend.

281 posted on 10/08/2007 12:54:12 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: SubGeniusX
Interesting thread, especially with all the "did the cops cause the heart attack" red herrings. There is, of course, no way to prove that they did or did not. One thing is for certain, however. His encounter with the police certainly didn't help any condition he may have had.

Nevertheless, we do know the following.

1) The cops in question do not know the difference between an Infiniti and a Maxima. Not a crime of course, but not reassuring either.

2) Mr. Jacobs had a heart attack.

3) Mr. Jacobs weighs 150 lbs

The rest of the story is Mr. Jacob's version. One's take on this apparently depends on one's pre-existing views of the NYPD.

We await developments, as they say.

282 posted on 10/08/2007 12:54:59 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: driftdiver
You might have a point. Can you provide a link?
283 posted on 10/08/2007 12:55:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but you can't tuna fish.)
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To: Constantine XIII

“It’s not that the cop caused the heart attack that people are upset about, it’s that she laughed at him and drove away without calling an ambulance or offering him a ride to the ER.”

Actually it’s the attack that caused the heart attack that I am upset about. No one really expects anyone in New York City to be anything but rude do they?


284 posted on 10/08/2007 12:57:40 PM PDT by monday
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To: marshmallow
There is, of course, no way to prove that they did or did not

No, but we do know this: He was arrested and of the approximately 26,280,000 minutes he's been alive, the minute he had a heart attack occurred immediately after his arrest.

This whole thing is going to hang on whether they had probable cause to arrest him. I submit that based on what we know, they did not. His car did not match the description of the suspect vehicle. If they didn't have probable cause then everything that happened after the minute they stopped him was unlawful.

285 posted on 10/08/2007 1:01:13 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: conimbricenses
If she's the one who kneed him in the back, assault and battery.

It hasn't been established that anyone did this.

286 posted on 10/08/2007 1:02:26 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: BearCub
innocent people being locked up because cops planted crushed sheetrock in their car
Yeah, I hate when that happens too. BTW, how did they get your car open without you knowing it?
287 posted on 10/08/2007 1:02:54 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SubGeniusX
incidentally, nissan makes infinitis. these two cars are extremely similar.

don't flame me yet!

this is what happens when you lower hiring standards and lower the starting salaries for cops. this is the type of cop you get. i hope the mayor and police commissioner and the union are happy. they did this.

you can now be CONVICTED of certain misdemeanors and easily become a new york city cop.

take my word on this: it is going to be a lot worse in 5 short years. you heard it here first.

thanks for the ping.

288 posted on 10/08/2007 1:04:28 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: monday

Meh, I dunno. They might take away my Southerner card for saying this, but the New Yorkers I’ve met seem like pretty decent sorts. They just have a different verbal ettiquite that’s kind of off-putting to outsiders who aren’t prepared for it. :p


289 posted on 10/08/2007 1:04:50 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: TigersEye

A link to what? Your inane post?


290 posted on 10/08/2007 1:07:16 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: oh8eleven
Yeah, I hate when that happens too. BTW, how did they get your car open without you knowing it?

Didn't happen to me. Happened in Dallas. A lot of innocent people were released from jail because of it. The cops planted crushed sheetrock and they falsified field-test results. IIRC the cops involved escaped without any jail time. IMO they should have received consecutive sentences adding up to twice the total of the innocent people's sentences.

AND, it's easy to get into a car without anyone knowing it.

291 posted on 10/08/2007 1:08:06 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: ozzymandus

yes it does. see post #288. nice to see you again, oz!


292 posted on 10/08/2007 1:09:28 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: oh8eleven

Master keys?

There are only about 5000 keys in any model type...


293 posted on 10/08/2007 1:13:35 PM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz are incapable of perceiving even the clearest consequences)
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To: Constantine XIII
They just have a different verbal ettiquite

Wow. That's putting it nicely. You meant they're rude bastards.

I remember hearing someone on Fox News or CNN say in the aftermath of 9/11 that the event would at least deal them a dose of humility.

294 posted on 10/08/2007 1:13:40 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: BearCub

That’s...kind of an awful thing to say. O_o


295 posted on 10/08/2007 1:14:18 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

Sounds like Atlanta headquartered CNN, doesn’t it?


296 posted on 10/08/2007 1:16:22 PM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz are incapable of perceiving even the clearest consequences)
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To: BearCub
I remember hearing someone on Fox News or CNN say in the aftermath of 9/11 that the event would at least deal them a dose of humility.

So basically this individual said the same thing about New Yorkers that leftists said about Americans in general.

Was your 9/11 sentiment "for all I care New Yorkers can all go get themselves killed"?

297 posted on 10/08/2007 1:17:24 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: null and void

Hah hah, pretty much, brother. Pretty much. :)


298 posted on 10/08/2007 1:18:02 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: wideawake
Was your 9/11 sentiment "for all I care New Yorkers can all go get themselves killed"?

No, of course not. They're just rude, self-centered, heartless bastards is all. Remember that show where they put crying child actors on the street corners and only about every 20th person would help them?

299 posted on 10/08/2007 1:20:39 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: Constantine XIII
They just have a different verbal ettiquite that’s kind of off-putting to outsiders who aren’t prepared for it

Interesting. The initial New York impulse toward Southern verbal etiquette is that Southerners seem phony - that the sunshiney demeanor is an insincere put-on.

It takes New Yorkers a while to let their guard down.

BTW - a relative of mine is NYC born-and-bred and attended The Citadel at the age of 17.

Suffice it to say, there were numerous instances of communication breakdown.

300 posted on 10/08/2007 1:21:13 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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