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6 friends killed at party in Crandon (WI) - 1 hurt; hours later, SWAT team kills shooter
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 10/7/07 | RAQUEL RUTLEDGE

Posted on 10/07/2007 10:23:40 AM PDT by janetjanet998

Edited on 10/07/2007 10:34:41 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Calvin Locke

You are not too far off the mark on your last sentence. Affirmative action, pushed and supported by the ACLU and the feds, has had a very negative impact on police depts. I don’t have any statistics, just anecdotal evidence, which isn’t considered evidence.
IQ ratings have zippo to do with whether someone goes nuts or not.


641 posted on 10/10/2007 5:58:16 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: kenth

I read a quote the other day:”It isn’t the title that makes a man noble, it’s the man that makes the title noble”.


642 posted on 10/10/2007 6:01:05 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
A tragedy compounded by the fact the shooting started at about 2:45 am Sunday and the perp was not confronted by police until 2:00 pm Sunday afternoon.

Yes, I know, I questioned that myself when I read 'the friend's' interview, however you can't lay blame until the 911 tapes are released, & the person "in charge" is revealed.

And now yesterday we leaned that the perp is supposed to have shot himself in the head -three- times. This only happens in Arkansas.

Yep, just posted it myself, & hope the media has lots of questions for AG Van Hollen, or whomever decides to "take' media questions.

643 posted on 10/10/2007 6:04:53 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: NRA2BFree

Yeah, they would continue to complain. You can not reason with unreasonable people.


644 posted on 10/10/2007 6:11:42 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: txdoda; All

“Authorities plan to release 911 calls recorded during the aftermath of Sunday’s shootings in the next day or two, said Kevin St. John, a state Department of Justice spokesman.

Forest County officials had denied the Journal Sentinel’s request Monday and Tuesday. Witnesses’ accounts of when they called 911 to report Peterson was at the Argonne home, and when he was confronted by law enforcement, have raised questions about how long it took authorities to respond.

A clerk at the Forest County Jail denied a request to view the arrest log, a public record routinely reviewed by the news media.”

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=672931


645 posted on 10/10/2007 6:14:44 AM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Great Questions.....(& when I get back from OT, I hope some will be answered...;o)

With a cop identified as the perp, it should be a thorough investigation.

646 posted on 10/10/2007 6:22:33 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: El Gato
The general policy of letting rural sheriffs deputies take their duty weapons home is not really unreasonable for a small department with a lot of territory to cover.

It was not his weapon it was the department weapon. And it should have been secured in their little black goon squad van.

How safe are deputes and police officers in their off duty cars when m13 know there is a full functioning assault weapon in the trunk. No common sense here. Besides that storm trooper stuff, which I consider unnecessary should be restricted to mature, five years are more experience men.

647 posted on 10/10/2007 6:55:28 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
From your link:

Peterson took his own life with a handgun, officials said.

Why did they originally say that the SWAT team killed shooter?

648 posted on 10/10/2007 7:49:45 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: txdoda
the fatal shot entering the right side of his head, Van Hollen said. All three head wounds showed signs the gun was held against the skin.”

The question is, who was holding the gun for the fatal shot.

649 posted on 10/10/2007 10:23:21 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Ken H

We’ll, here’s a possiblity. Not that it really matters now.

The SWAT team may have had line of sight on him and his weapon(s).... but couldn’t confirm that he was dead. Maybe looking through some thin drapes or whatever. Tinted glass.

He’s not responding to any commands...so they took a shot.

Sniper confirms he hit the guy...and the guy didn’t move.

Then the police go in.

And it gets reported that SWAT team sniper kills the guy.

Kinda like when the cops shoot the guy in the elevator in the thigh in Silence of the Lambs. The guy was dead. But had a pistol next to his hand.


650 posted on 10/10/2007 10:25:01 AM PDT by Canali
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To: kenth

Said sheriff is a Republican in a dhimm county-they’ve been “gunning” for him since the day he was elected. There’s a lot more to the story than most people know.

My parents live there and my Grandmother(may God rest her soul)was one of the few Republicans there. I’m so glad she infused me with her values as I grew up.


651 posted on 10/10/2007 1:59:59 PM PDT by snuffy smiff
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To: snuffy smiff

“There’s a lot more to the story than most people know.”

Well, don’t keep us waiting...


652 posted on 10/10/2007 2:20:31 PM PDT by starviego
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To: Ken H
Early reports said he was killed by an Oconto county officer. Then there was silence. Then he managed to shoot himself 3 times in the head.
653 posted on 10/10/2007 2:26:45 PM PDT by rhinelanderwi
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To: starviego

Sorry. Until this all plays out that’s about all I can say.
Other than the sheriff has oficially resigned and the deputy(a dhimm) got a slap on the wrist.

So much for being friends with a backstabbing dhimm...


654 posted on 10/10/2007 4:20:27 PM PDT by snuffy smiff
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To: org.whodat

If you had one once of sense you would know how tightly controlled ammo and weapon are around the military. They have adult supervision at all times.
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If You have never been in ground combat You don’t know WTF
Your talking about,,,

Ever heard of “fragging” ??...


655 posted on 10/10/2007 7:30:53 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
That statement makes me think you have a lot of first hand knowledge about the phony soldiers.
656 posted on 10/10/2007 7:44:47 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: El Gato

No they are not too young. But they’ve had more training, and have been instilled with more discipline. They also operate under the close supervision of their NCOs. A small department deputy and/or town cop is much more likley to have to operate on their own. Make a big difference. A larger department would have both more extensive training and would have the green guys, of whatever age, ride along with a more mature training officer, and probably for alonger time.
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Sometimes the LT. and the NCOs and Doc go down,,,

Then you got a 19 year old(with some salt) with a PRC\25

that runs the show(olden days),,,

You are spot~on about the training and the ride~alongs...


657 posted on 10/10/2007 7:56:30 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: org.whodat
'Nam 67-68...IFFV,,,TET'68...8/26 Arty...FWIW... Image and video hosting by TinyPic To Make A Point,,,It Ain't About AGE !!! Got It ?...
658 posted on 10/10/2007 8:08:45 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Sometimes the LT. and the NCOs and Doc go down,,,

Then you got a 19 year old(with some salt) with a PRC\25

Yep, and then he's already in too much trouble to go making any more, except for the enemy of course.

659 posted on 10/10/2007 8:16:56 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: org.whodat

WTF point are trying to make? I’d like to give you the benefit of the doubt before actually tell you my thoughts.


660 posted on 10/10/2007 8:20:03 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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