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Medal Database Sought to Catch Frauds ("Phony Veterans")
Military.com ^ | October 05, 2007

Posted on 10/05/2007 5:47:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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The sooner, the better. Will they start with Jon Cary?
1 posted on 10/05/2007 5:47:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember seeing a website devoted to running down and exposing fake SEALS.


2 posted on 10/05/2007 5:52:36 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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I heard just yesterday that the scum who raped that 4 year old claimed to be a Navy Seal. That has now been refuted.


3 posted on 10/05/2007 5:54:34 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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I support this act - without melodramatizing things, I suffered for my PH and the thought of some undeserving SOB claiming one doesn’t sit well with me.


4 posted on 10/05/2007 5:57:23 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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But sponsor Rep. John Salazar, D-Colo., said many of the cases proved difficult to prosecute because investigators had no way to prove or disprove whether a suspect actually earned any medals.

Hey, hey, Ho, ho, make 'em sign a one-eight-oh. Duck and cover, Kerry, the key clause is "actually earned." channeling Tonk :)

5 posted on 10/05/2007 5:59:12 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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Hahaha! That reminds me of a story. I was a Veterans employment counselor at the unemployment office some years ago, when a “client” came in claiming to be a retired SEAL Lieutenant Commander who had been taken prisoner during Vietnam and shipped to the Soviet Union for safekeeping and interrogation. Something didn’t smell right, so I called SEAL headquarters after he left. After I told them the story, they were rolling around on the floor laughing for what seemed like 10 minutes. No SEAL, they told me, has EVER been captured in wartime. These phonies are all over.


6 posted on 10/05/2007 5:59:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kerry is certainly one of the “phony soldiers” Rush was talking about.


7 posted on 10/05/2007 6:00:28 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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It’s pretty easy to spot a phony Iraq “veteran”—just look for the “Move On” t-shirt.


8 posted on 10/05/2007 6:01:38 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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This is good. Then I might be able to find out what medal I received when I retired from the Army out of Germany (”It’s still sitting on the General’s desk.”) and also find out if they added the Kuwait medal to my awards listed on my DD214. I’ve inquired with EVERYBODY but every time I do, they just send me another laundry bag full of the stuff I’ve already got. LOL!

If the ‘RATS turn me into a DemocRAT “voter” after I die and want to use me to protest some war, they’re going to need a dump truck to haul this stuff up to the White House fence and a crane to throw it over the fence. LOL!


9 posted on 10/05/2007 6:03:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (This U.S. Army veteran supports Rush! Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, and Harkin can all kiss my @$$.)
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I think this database is a very good idea. It will take some time to find and enter the data, but it will be valuable to many people, including law enforcement and historians and the families of veterans.


10 posted on 10/05/2007 6:03:54 PM PDT by zot
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They can add Stuart Jakku to the database....he died on Oct 7th (tomorrow) 1944, as a bombadier who got hit while flying missions over Germany. (Just a timely post - he was my husband’s Uncle, whom he never knew.)


11 posted on 10/05/2007 6:23:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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Wait a minute.

There’s already a “central medal database”.

Maybe they’ve never heard of it? It’s the personnel records depository at St. Louis. Currently, while it isn’t exactly (necessarily) quick, utilizing FOIA certain military service information including awards and decorations can be obtained for virtually anyone. They even have a website and in recent years relatives finding out about their loved ones service record have found it a lot less troublesome. From that standpoint the article doesn’t make sense. Why should any additional legislation be required to utilize what tax dollars should already be providing, much less improve anything?

It is also true that a lot of servicemembers earned awards that were never awarded, but that’s quite apart from “wannabes” who are wearing dozens of ribbons and things that they are not authorized to wear. I don’t see why it is thought necessary to conflate these issues.


12 posted on 10/05/2007 6:33:56 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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But sponsor Rep. John Salazar, D-Colo., said many of the cases proved difficult to prosecute because investigators had no way to prove or disprove whether a suspect actually earned any medals.

He's obviously met Senator Kerry....

13 posted on 10/05/2007 6:35:18 PM PDT by digger48
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; 2ndDivisionVet; ...



14 posted on 10/05/2007 6:44:06 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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I am a Gulf War vet and I retired in July, 1991, before Saudi Arabia and Kuwait authorized their Kuwait Liberation Medals. When I left my duty location I brought back a form issued by the base personnel office showing dates of service in-country and the base code where I was at. I sent a copy of this form to the Air Force Personnel Center and in both cases I received the medals. Additionally, my DD214 can be updated by having a DD215 issued containing the amended information.
15 posted on 10/05/2007 6:44:57 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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Was his name Gary?


16 posted on 10/05/2007 6:47:25 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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http://kepler.pratt.duke.edu/USMCRibbons.html


17 posted on 10/05/2007 6:47:55 PM PDT by radar101 (Duncan Hunter-The only possibility)
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How did you know? [cue spooky music]


18 posted on 10/05/2007 6:51:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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I wonder if congress will pass this bill considering a few of that body could find themselves in jeopardy.


19 posted on 10/05/2007 6:58:18 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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I wonder if Reid and Murtha will be all up in arms over this?


20 posted on 10/05/2007 6:58:32 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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