Christiana?
Posted on 10/05/2007 7:17:45 AM PDT by cryptical
Exactly. The morality police among us claim that 'we as a society' have a 'right to prohibit' guns, drugs, whatever..
Tyranny results when any person or group of persons enforces their will on the populace by force or coercion.
If you don't believe a democracy can practice tyranny, you have a lot of reading to do.
To be consistent, we can re-read this:
Beware of the man who claims conservative credentials, while he argues that our US Constitution was not intended to protect our individual rights from state or local government infringements.
These men claim that:
'We, -as a society', decide which rights we will protect --- And if 'We' choose not to protect your right to do [whatever], so be it. If and when a majority of the people decide that we should protect a right, then we will. Given that we're a self-governing nation, there's nothing to stop the majority from deciding this.
You didn’t directly answer a single point I made in your response. I can only assume that you have stopped paying attention, and I’m not interested in chasing you around.
You are obviously a fan of the nanny state. Right now, everything is going your way. I haven’t looked, but I expect you post in favor of gun control, anti-smoking laws, cell phone laws, and laws that control the amount of fat in fast food. Many of us work toward the return of an open society. I’m very sorry that such a condition will make you very unhappy, but at least you’ll understand how we feel now, in this time of unhindered marching toward fascism.
To the return? Return to what? What "open society" are you referring to that limited its laws to those activities that harmed others?
Right. And our self-governing American people, through our republican systems of representative government, have rejected your asinine contention that legalized dope is the true measure of freedom.
Nice foot shot, Eagle Eye.
Christiana?
Speaking of ... where's Dane? Has he given up on the drug threads?
Christiana is hardly an open society. No guns, no private property, no hard drugs, no cars.
Interesting that the sane, sober adults in Copenhagen are the ones providing this hippie, collectivist commune with water, sewer, electricity, trash removal, police, fire, and ambulance services. Christiana's motto is, "Leave us alone ... mostly".
I suspect that our American dopers (FREEDOM!) want society to provide them with water, sewer, electricity, trash removal, police, fire, and ambulance services as well.
Roscoe:
And our self-governing American people, through our republican systems of representative government, have rejected your asinine contention that legalized dope is the true measure of freedom.
Our 'representatives' in government have rejected our Constitutions limits on powers to make the asinine contention that prohibiting dope is the true measure of freedom.
Poor confused roscoe and his morality police buddies can't even understand our republican form of government.
“Hey, even bureaucrats have to eat.”
It’s a full time job continually convincing the taxpayers that you’re needed.
Beat me to the punch.
And by bypassing, overlooking, and overriding the Constitution they have stolen self government from the people.
And even if one wants to allow that perhaps all drug laws and practices stemming from the WoD is within bounds, then efforts of those who disagree are permitted and welcomed by the Constitution and the laws of the land.
So the people don't want dope prohibited? Since when?
How exactly have our representatives stolen self government from the people when our representatives are doing nothing more than exercising the will of the people?
You're not making any sense. Try thinking for yourself instead of merely parroting some of the ignorant posts on this thread.
Alaska.
Sourceless lie.
Judicial legislation.
He don't need no steenking facts.
It was judicial activism that legalized marijuana, with the Alaskan Supreme Court finding that the right to privacy protected the possession of up to four ounces, by those 21 and over, at home.
Interesting that a constitutional right to privacy doesn't cover 5 ounces of marijuana or a small amount of cocaine, or any other drug for that matter. Amazing how the Alaskan Supreme Court was able to see that the state constitution only covered four ounces of marijuana.
This is what made the decision judicial activism and the law judicial legislation. And I'm sure that violating the Alaska constitution and thwarting the will of the people is OK with you since you agree with the outcome.
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Or drugs?
As long as they get what they want, judge made law is just fine with them.
And since the major 1990 vote there's been changes in opinion and "The People" are making changes using the political process.
Now what if your state's population voted for criminalization of more than 4 ounces of tobacco?
Smoking tobacco has been irrefutably proven to cause or been linked to many diseases.
Or more than 4 ounces of alcohol?
Alcohol abuse also been linked with disease, crime, and fatal accidents, not to mention the humiliating acts from intoxication.
Do the people have a right to pollute their lungs with tobacco smoke?
Do the people have a right to stress or injure their livers with alcohol use?
Or do the people merely granted the privilege to do so from their generous governments?
There are laws against dope in all 50 states.
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