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Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage
The Recorder ^ | 3/7/2007 | Chris Demorro

Posted on 09/30/2007 9:14:48 AM PDT by 1066AD

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From March this year."Search" didn't find this.

I've read similar articles but this is the most clear. Why would you buy a car with an effective life of only 100K miles ? (100K miles is expected life of the battery, replacement cost in today's dollars about $8K I'm told).

1 posted on 09/30/2007 9:14:52 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD
The Toyota Prius is like all other leftist ideas — it makes them feel good about themselves, but does more harm than good.
2 posted on 09/30/2007 9:16:16 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: 1066AD

300,000 miles from a Hummer? I don’t mind a legitimate critique of the Prius but this seems stacked in the opposite direction.

Disclaimer: I wouldn’t buy a prius on a bet, neither would I drive a Hummer.


3 posted on 09/30/2007 9:20:10 AM PDT by saganite
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To: 1066AD

Must have been posted under a different title but I’ve seen it on FR as well as other places.

This article has been widely discounted.


4 posted on 09/30/2007 9:20:45 AM PDT by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: 1066AD

Ive said this from the beginning.

Anyone who has ever owned a cordless drill knows that the batteries are a problem.

BTW, I am told that you can overcome the problem of Battery “memory” by applying a high amount of amperage at the batteries rated voltage across its terminals of the defective battery.

This apparently will blow away the memory junction in the battery.

Caveat: “Kids... dont try this at home”


5 posted on 09/30/2007 9:22:33 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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I am not sure about the battery life and cost. Even if the battery life is understated and the cost is overstated, the romance with the Prius and hybrid technology is irrational.

Hybrid advocates (leftists and politicians) are ignoring price and economic analysis. The advocates have decided that hybrids are a winning technology worthy of large tax subsidies. Even with the large subsidies, the economic analysis does not make sense for most drivers. The subsidies are inhibiting other more promising ideas such as the low emissions diesel technologies from coming to market. At this time, the price and economic analysis indicate that hybrids are not the solution to energy and environment problems.

6 posted on 09/30/2007 9:25:48 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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More fun facts:

Did you know that you can make a light out of a Dill Pickle?

Take a lamp cord and strip the wires at the end. Then wrap each wire around a nail.
Insert the nails, + and - in opposing ends of the pickle.

plug the lamp cord into a wall socket and watch the pickle light up a glorious orange, like a fluorescent light!

Caveat: Kids... Don’t try this at home!


7 posted on 09/30/2007 9:29:32 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 1066AD

> ... Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer ...

Even Rush has had to backtrack on this one.
The article is over the top. Nonetheless ...

Anyone looking for a high mileage vehicle needs to
consider the huckster hybrids with a wary eye.

What cost per mile do they get, the way you drive?

What is the cost per mile over the full useful life?

What hidden subsidies are inflating the claims?

Will you be able to ditch the used-up vehicle and
avoid hazmat fees for disposing of the batts?
(may be no problem today, but what about in 10 yrs)

We considered hybrids and bought a diesel (VW TDI).
Of course, the EPA and blue states have got things
so screwed up you can’t buy a new TDI here now.


8 posted on 09/30/2007 9:32:15 AM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: 1066AD

This article regurgitates a bunch of urban legends.

The 100k mile canard is handily refuted by many owners who have handily passed that mileage. In fact, the battery is warranted in California for 150k miles.

And $8k to replace the battery? That’s totally false.


9 posted on 09/30/2007 9:32:45 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Thompson 2008!])
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To: 1066AD

Excellent information, thank you.


10 posted on 09/30/2007 9:34:40 AM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: saganite

You have a point. Compare the Prius to my Focus, which has continued to surprise me with its quality and driving fun.


11 posted on 09/30/2007 9:38:59 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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From March this year.”Search” didn’t find this.

???

Good to see this out there again, but don’t say “search” didn’t find it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1848688/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1800912/posts


12 posted on 09/30/2007 9:39:14 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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Right. I think it’s a stretch to compare the Prius to the Hummer. The article would have been much more effective if, for instance, they compared the Prius to a Ford midsize like the Taurus.


13 posted on 09/30/2007 9:42:13 AM PDT by saganite
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Pickle Power
14 posted on 09/30/2007 9:44:16 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 1066AD

Go Hyundai!


15 posted on 09/30/2007 9:46:41 AM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: mylife
Ive said this from the beginning.

Anyone who has ever owned a cordless drill knows that the batteries are a problem.

BTW, I am told that you can overcome the problem of Battery “memory” by applying a high amount of amperage at the batteries rated voltage across its terminals of the defective battery.

This apparently will blow away the memory junction in the battery.

Caveat: “Kids... dont try this at home”

The only way you can apply more amperage is to either up the voltage or lower the resistance of the circuit. Neither one seems very feasible when charging batteries.

16 posted on 09/30/2007 9:54:00 AM PDT by calex59
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To: 1066AD

http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/

Its Legit.


17 posted on 09/30/2007 9:55:10 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha (Smoke clears and Fred Thompson is President))
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To: 1066AD
The Toyota Prius has become the flagship car for those in our society so environmentally conscious that they are willing to spend a premium to show the world how much they care. Unfortunately for them, their ultimate ‘green car’ is the source of some of the worst pollution in North America; it takes more combined energy per Prius to produce than a Hummer.



18 posted on 09/30/2007 9:59:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: calex59

Not charging the battery....”clearing” the battery

Just crank up the amps on a power supply and tap the terminals for a split second.

Caveat: I dont condone this experiment


19 posted on 09/30/2007 10:02:40 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Where's the KABOOM?

20 posted on 09/30/2007 10:06:24 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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