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Many awakenings (Ron Paul is as surprised as anyone at the near messianic zeal he inspires)
Concord Monitor ^ | September 30, 2007 | By SARAH LIEBOWITZ

Posted on 09/30/2007 5:39:19 AM PDT by jmeagan

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To: jmeagan
Ron Paul is as surprised as anyone at the near messianic zeal he inspires

For those of us with a sarcastic bent, this quote is known as a 'target-rich environment'.

121 posted on 10/01/2007 9:45:49 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: jmeagan
Pirates are not what I would usually call terrorists.

So what are they then, freedom fighters?

The Barbary Pirates kidnapped and enslaved US citizens, in addition to raiding our shipping. Are they still not terrorists?

122 posted on 10/02/2007 6:12:46 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: pnh102

*****So what are they then, freedom fighters?

The Barbary Pirates kidnapped and enslaved US citizens, in addition to raiding our shipping. Are they still not terrorists?****

Terrorists commit random acts of violence against civilian populations usually to further some political or religious goal.

The Barbary Pirates were in it for the money. Criminals or outlaws would be a better description.


123 posted on 10/02/2007 7:04:10 AM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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To: jmeagan
You are truely a fool of monumental proportions.

Ron Paul is a useful idiot for the Jihad, and fools like you and his spammers only serve to strengthen the hand of our enemies, because you guys are too stupid to realize it.

The situation in the Middle East is not going in your favor politically. You have staked out a position which rewards tyranny and oppression, while making each and everyone of us weaker.

Please, take your Ron Paul suicide mission somewhere else. Hell would be a great start.

124 posted on 10/02/2007 7:14:40 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender/Suicide Monkey for GOP nominee and a steaming POS)
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To: TexasNative2000
***For those of us with a sarcastic bent, this quote is known as a ‘target-rich environment’.****

I am sure “messianic” was not Ron Paul’s choice of words.

I am sure he is really surprised. He has been pushing his ideas for 20-30 years and, all of a sudden, he gets a huge following via the internet.

Most campaign stops, photo ops or speeches are carefully choreographed by the candidate’s front men. The front men have to work to get crowds of supporters there, they pass out signs and are the head cheerleaders. Ron Paul’s campaign stops just show the natural enthusiasm of his supporters, and they bring their own signs.

I run a small business and I generally am outwardly neutral in most elections. However, I have put up a few yard signs when I feel very strongly about a candidate. However, these are supplied by the candidates. Ron Paul supporters “buy” yard signs or make their own.

125 posted on 10/02/2007 7:16:48 AM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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To: jmeagan
The Barbary Pirates were in it for the money. Criminals or outlaws would be a better description.

Um, best rethink that. Per Wikipedia: "They operated out of Tunis, Tripoli, Algiers, Salé and ports in Morocco, preying on Christian and non-Islamic shipping in the western Mediterranean Sea from the time of the Crusades until the early 19th century." Also: "As well as preying on shipping, raids called Riazzas were often made on European coastal towns for capturing white Christian slaves. The pirates were responsible for capturing large numbers of slaves from Europe, who were sold in slave markets in places such as Algeria and Morocco."

It was anti-Christian, anti-West war. Gee, does that ring a bell? Huh? Sounds pretty similar to the Islamofascist terrorists we have today; only circumstances commensurate with the age.

Aye, matey, terrorists they be. AAARRRRRRGHHHHH!

126 posted on 10/02/2007 8:27:11 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: jmeagan
"Ron Paul supporters “buy” yard signs or make their own."

This morning, I saw the office building lady removing the eye-pollution that the Ron Paul spammers committed against the property here from this weekend.

It was a pleasant sight seeing her chunking them in the garbage.

Pro Ron Paul threads belong on moveon.org, not Freerepublic.

127 posted on 10/02/2007 9:32:03 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender/Suicide Monkey for GOP nominee and a steaming POS)
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To: Popman
the Constitution isn't a suicide pact.

Like "everything changed on 911," "you can't shout fire in a crowded theater" and "we can't second guess our leaders in time of war" that misleading catch phrase is being used by the forces of big government to justify just about any violation of liberty. I prefer Benjamin Franklin's dictum that those who prefer security to liberty, deserve neither....but then I suppose I'm a bit of an old fogie who still looks to the principles of '76.

128 posted on 10/02/2007 9:39:33 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: lormand
Pro Ron Paul threads belong on moveon.org, not Freerepublic.

The folks at Moveon.org hate Ron Paul. They have excluded him from any consideration on their site or any of their candidate forums. They recognize that if the GOP nominates Paul, Hillary will lose. If the GOP nominates a pro-war candidate, it will suffer a debacle similar to the one it suffered in 2006.

129 posted on 10/02/2007 9:44:17 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
"The folks at Moveon.org hate Ron Paul. They have excluded him from any consideration on their site or any of their candidate forums."

Ironic isn't it? It's like the feud between the Sunnis and Shiites Islam-0-terrorists. Both are loathsome, both have the same grand goals, but yet they can't get along. That's too bad.

"They recognize that if the GOP nominates Paul, Hillary will lose."

That sounds like too much Indica in the yahooka.

"If the GOP nominates a pro-war candidate, it will suffer a debacle similar to the one it suffered in 2006."

You see, that is the tradgedy of being rejected by Moveon.org. They couldn't have wished it better than you just have.

Where is the hand of ZOT when it is needed?

130 posted on 10/02/2007 11:16:55 AM PDT by lormand (Ron Paul - Surrender/Suicide Monkey for GOP nominee and a steaming POS)
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To: jmeagan
Prior to 9/11, the major death numbers in a terrorist attack was the Marine barracks in Lebanon. I don’t think the Hobart Towers or the Cole had as many deaths.

So who cares if a few hundred US citizens get killed over the course of several years. Not a big deal. No problem.

Obviously, Ron Paul really cares for the citizens of this country.

We would be using black ops to take out terrorist camps and/or leaders. Or maybe a smart bomb here or there.

You forgot to mention that we would try them in court and give them all the rights of any US citizen. Perhaps you could find an aspirin factory to bomb?

Ron Paul would fight terrorism as effectively as Bill Clinton.

Naw, riding that 4 wheeler was a bigger risk to him than he faces from Islamic terrorists.

Perfectly illustrating that you just don't understand what is happening around you. It is sad to see people go through life ignorant.

Ron Paul - you should fear your 4-wheeler more than Al Qaeda.

131 posted on 10/02/2007 2:35:23 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Depends on what you replace it with, if anything.

For all it’s faults, the system in place is capable of growing and evolving to meet sudden economic and political events - it is flexible and liquid, on demand.

Before anyone flies off on this, just take whatever alternatives you would suggest and think them through for a day or two before posting them, and try as best as possible to figure out how the systemic changes you would propose would effect every level of commerce, with the totality of the unintended consequences trickling down to your wallet or purse.

Do NOT forget those ‘Unintended Consequences’.


132 posted on 10/02/2007 3:01:13 PM PDT by Scotsman
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To: Scotsman
For all it’s faults, the system in place is capable of growing and evolving to meet sudden economic and political events - it is flexible and liquid, on demand.

A rather odd set of properties for a system that's ostensibly a government of strictly limited and carefully enumerated powers.

133 posted on 10/02/2007 3:10:54 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: jmeagan
For the Federal Reserve part, see post #132.

“Well, it is more of a religious philosophy.” The religious philosophy was co-opted by the political radical element that uses religious text to further their real world goals of power and domination over as much of the world as they can conquer, by violence and other means - political.

Ron Paul still does not understand that and apparently, neither do you.

To simplify it further, the single greatest threat we as a nation face is Radical Islam. Until that threat is resolved, all other domestic disagreements are meaningless.

We can only continue to disagree about how to run this country is if we as a nation remain free. If Radical Islam wins, there will be no disagreement, and no room for any other point of view.

Should we loose this war, you will suddenly remember 2007 as one of the “good old days”.

134 posted on 10/02/2007 3:16:35 PM PDT by Scotsman
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To: tacticalogic
‘the system’ I was referring to is the Federal Reserve system.
135 posted on 10/02/2007 3:19:09 PM PDT by Scotsman
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To: Scotsman
Fair enough. But if what you say about "domestic disagreement" being irrelevant, particularly with regard to constitutional issues, then by your account that is too.

If you give it up, you won't get it back.

136 posted on 10/02/2007 4:24:47 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Scotsman
****“Well, it is more of a religious philosophy.” The religious philosophy was co-opted by the political radical element that uses religious text to further their real world goals of power and domination over as much of the world as they can conquer, by violence and other means - political.

Ron Paul still does not understand that and apparently, neither do you.****

Get serious, radical Islam can only attack with terrorist type attacks. They have no army, no navy and no air force to speak of.

****To simplify it further, the single greatest threat we as a nation face is Radical Islam. Until that threat is resolved, all other domestic disagreements are meaningless.****

Well, N. Korea has nukes, as do Russia and China. They are much greater threats.

****We can only continue to disagree about how to run this country is if we as a nation remain free. If Radical Islam wins, there will be no disagreement, and no room for any other point of view.***

Radical Islam has zero chance of running this country. Do you think we are going to give up if they have a few suicide bombers in some mall?

****Should we loose this war, you will suddenly remember 2007 as one of the “good old days”.****

Crapola, there is no way radical Islam can win a war, at the present time, against any major power. All they can win against is cowards that think a few suicide bombers can take over a country.

137 posted on 10/02/2007 6:54:34 PM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country -- Ron Paul)
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To: jmeagan
They do have delivery systems, and if allowed to pursue their current course, will have nukes to deliver.

North Korea - Anti ballistic missile system.

Neither Russia or China want a shooting war - they would much rather be the beneficiaries of world free trade. Putin is posturing for internal consumption - neither he or the Chinese Politburo have a death wish ...

... unlike Radical Islam and it’s leaders and followers.

Suicide bombers in a mall - apparently you missed the regime change that Radical Islam instituted in Spain, with a few train bombings.

‘...at the present time.” At the present time is exactly when we need to stop it - before the problem becomes bigger and much more personally dangerous.

Tell you what ...

... next time you are in a mall, stop, look around and try to imagine what one suicide bomber, standing wherever you are at the time could accomplish.

138 posted on 10/28/2007 7:10:42 AM PDT by Scotsman
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