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The Death of the Grown-up: How America’s Arrested Development Is Bringing Down Western Civilization
Hot Air ^ | 9-28-07 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 09/29/2007 7:20:26 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother

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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

If we think things are bad now, just wait until it is compulsory to start your toddler to public school! Besides dumbing down the population, they are trying to annihilate the family. Let them pass national health care and we are all slaves!


21 posted on 09/29/2007 8:27:24 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Wuli
The old “successful people never went to college” thing is way overplayed and largely untrue. Bill Gates, fer instance, went to an exclusive prep school prior to Harvard and had a ton of contacts when he went into software.

Post World War II America (1947 to 1973) was an economic anomaly, the likes of which we are very unlikely to see again. Not only is Europe re-built, but Asia is developing infrastructure (both human and manufacturing) at a very rapid pace.

22 posted on 09/29/2007 8:27:42 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

I have a personal theory that marijuana use causes “arrested development.” An emotionally mature 16 year old is unaffected, but an immature 19 year old is emotionally “frozen” until long after marijuana use is stopped. Once frozen, more effort is required to emotionally mature.

OK, it’s just a theory....


23 posted on 09/29/2007 8:30:26 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
For some reason half the baby boomers didn’t grow up and you can see it in leftest politicians.
24 posted on 09/29/2007 8:32:32 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Everything these days is “for the children”, so why shouldn’t adults act like kids?


25 posted on 09/29/2007 8:36:04 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: durasell
To compete now, you have to compete with the entire world

That's the problem. Do schools and colleges in China or Japan or India dumb their curriculum down at the behest of "liberals"? Do kids in their schools spend as much time learning about diversity as they do learning calculus? Is the curriculum in their schools PC and "gay friendly"? Are they routinely taught that their country is the source of the world's evils? The Asian students at my school are adults when they arrive here as freshmen. I guarantee you they won't be still having keg parties and sponging off their mom & dad when they're 43. Can't say the same for a lot of Americans, though.

26 posted on 09/29/2007 8:36:22 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations.)
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To: puroresu

Yep. But the funny thing is — strictly in terms of progress — it doesn’t matter. “If America doesn’t do it, then nobody will do it” is no longer true. If we don’t invent the next supercomputer, then somebody else will invent it. If we don’t do genetic engineering, then someone else will. If America doesn’t want to pour a ton of public money into pure research, then somebody else will — and reap the benefits.


27 posted on 09/29/2007 8:42:08 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Wuli

I had a student once tell me that the university should provide free contraceptives to all the students. After all, she said, we’re adults now and can have sex. I asked her why she couldn’t buy her own contraceptives since she’s an adult. She just stared at me as if to say, “Like, it’s too much trouble to drive to the pharmacy every time”.

They THINK they’re adults, and they want to do adult things that are “fun”, but don’t want any of the responsibilities of adulthood. They want mommy & daddy, or a surrogate mommy & daddy (the university administration, their employer, the government...) to provide for them.


28 posted on 09/29/2007 8:43:10 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations.)
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To: durasell

So we can just party and let the Asians do all the brain work, and it won’t hurt us a bit?


29 posted on 09/29/2007 8:45:31 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations.)
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To: johnny7

I think that Arnold described himself(RINO’s in general) and the left quite accurately, “GirlyMen”.


30 posted on 09/29/2007 8:46:31 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: Wuli

Medicine is an applied science and art not a hard science.


31 posted on 09/29/2007 8:49:15 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: puroresu

We still have driven and incredibly smart kids here with very high level skill sets. And they will accomplish great things. I’ve met many of them, but I gotta tell you, they don’t care if they work for a Japanese company, German company or American company. Same for the Indians or Japanese.

And those kids who spend their time on nonsense will end up detailing the cars and cleaning the bathrooms of the kids who put in the effort.


32 posted on 09/29/2007 8:49:19 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: IronJack
children don't fare well when exposed to the real world's demands. And there's always a price to be paid for eternal adolescence.

And we're beginning to pay it. There's a saying in science that "nature abhors a vacuum." It works culturally too. If property is left unfenced and unprotected, squatters will rule. Our national boundaries, physical and metaphorical, have been left unfenced and unprotected and it's plain to see what the result is.

The illegals and jihadists who are encroaching aren't troubled by multicultural or politically correct concerns. They want to rule and they will do so if left unchallenged. Who will stop them?

33 posted on 09/29/2007 8:52:20 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Stepan12
Isaac Newton invented calculus at age 20.

Seems like some of our Founding Fathers were only in their thirties -- Thomas Jefferson for one.

34 posted on 09/29/2007 8:53:01 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Stepan12
Isn't that partially due to the idea of public schools? I know one psychologist, much hated by the homosexual activists, who states that adolescence is an arbitrary and useless concept.

I don't get the connection. I would think that at least some homosexual activists -- the ones in NAMBLA -- would embrace that position.

I wouldn't state in broad terms that it's an "arbitrary and useless concept." A six-year-old should not be engaged in sexual activity, driving a car, buying liquor, working full time or signing contracts. Puberty happens, and children gain maturity and wisdom with time.

The ages -- age of consent, 16 to drive, 18 for most definitions of adulthood, 21 to drink -- are wholly arbitrary. There re certainly some 16-year-olds who are more mature and ready for responsibility than some 26-year-olds. But when it becomes a matter of law, there needs to be a clear enough line that folks can understand the law and obey it.

In the olden days, people older than 14 or 14 were adults and got married.

And children under 6 worked in sweatshops and were basically bought and sold; sexual exploitation of children was rarely if ever reported; most people were illiterate; and the life expectancy was about 30.

35 posted on 09/29/2007 8:59:45 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: IronJack

Maybe growth requires hardships or, at least challenges.

The poor in our country are so well off they can just rest on the governments laurels.

That idea is one theory of why people in cold countries develop and thrive while people in places like Africa and the M.E. just hang out in tribes.


36 posted on 09/29/2007 9:03:10 AM PDT by altura
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To: durasell

“The old “successful people never went to college” thing is way overplayed and largely untrue.”

Sorry, college always has been overplayed.

60% of the economy is small and medium sized companies. Most of them are owned and run by people who never went to college.

1/2 of the “large cap” companies on Americas stock exchanges were small cap companies fifteen and twenty years ago and 75% of them were started by people with no college.

Where does college “pay off” (outside of medicine and engineering). In academia itself, in the entire non-profit and in government sector where, frequently, the very same job, with the very same tasks and the very same responsibility will be filled with candidates that could acquire extremely different salaries - one salary for one with no degree, one salary for one with an “undergraduate” degree and one salary for one with a “graduate” degree - FOR DOING EXACTLY THE SAME JOB. US job-financial statistics are skewed by this factor (higher salary if one has a college degree) as governments in the US are those who most often do this idiocy and “government” is the largest single class of employment in the US.


37 posted on 09/29/2007 9:07:02 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wolfie

>Everything these days is “for the children”, so why shouldn’t adults act like kids?<

If I may record a few thoughts here: Ms. West’s “Revolution of being limited” brought with it a certain sense of “freedom” from responsibility.

Moral principles were challenged and found prudish. People sought the “freedom” from being moral.

The plunging dress code was and is a sign of both the above. When I was in school if a girl showed up in jeans, she would have been sent home to change to a skirt and blouse or sweater. If her personal body skin was bare, she would likely have been suspended from school!

Total tolerance is “freedom” from having principles, and leads to disintegration of one’s own identity. This is largely taught in schools at all levels today. Individualism is politically incorrect. Utilizing the political correct is “freedom” from being an individual.

It has been coming on for 50 years. It is high time the pendulum begins it’s journey back!

I will purchase Ms. West’s book.


38 posted on 09/29/2007 9:07:16 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: durasell
My observations lead me to believe that the skill sets required for what are or were semi-skilled jobs are now increasing in complexity. Those jobs that are inherently low-skilled are being done for minimum wage via franchises, such as fast food chains, places like Jiffy Lube and carpet cleaner operations.

I think the requiring of degrees is largely out of hand. The overwhelming majority of jobs could be mastered by someone of average intelligence within a day or two.
39 posted on 09/29/2007 9:08:59 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
In some places the situation is laughable. The University of California is Berkeley wanted to cut down a few trees to construct an athletic training facility. As might be expected a few radicals protested by camping out in the trees. The University put a fence around the area, and - believe it or not - most students ignored the protest. Support was forthcoming from another group. Many old hippies (who decided to end their days in Berkeley) rallied to help the protesters by bringing them food and water.
If a better example of arrested emotional development exists than the attitude of the aging hippies, I’d like to read about it.
40 posted on 09/29/2007 9:14:35 AM PDT by quadrant
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