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Roy Exum: Dr. Dobson’s Dumb Mistake
Chattanoggan.com ^ | September 22, 2007 | Roy Exum

Posted on 09/23/2007 7:18:21 AM PDT by Doofer

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To: Pistolshot

See #11.
I was responding to the article, not you.


21 posted on 09/23/2007 7:59:14 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: Pistolshot

“But religious fervor has started more wars in history than any other causes”

Really? Lets see, WW1, WWII, Pol Pot, the cold war, vietnam, 1812, civil war, and on and on. More people have died in conflict over the last 200 years than in all of recorded history. With the exception of the current they were not caused by religion.

Religious fervor helps many and is often falsely blamed by those seeking to attack devout people.


22 posted on 09/23/2007 8:01:31 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“Not “stay out” of politics, but concern themselves with the fundamental qualities that made the United States a safe haven for religious belief.”

For religious people to stay out of politics is to ensure the United States loses religious freedom.


23 posted on 09/23/2007 8:02:49 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Pistolshot

Start naming those “religious wars” ~ we need a list so we can see if religion comes out on top or is a very secondary reason for war.


24 posted on 09/23/2007 8:06:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Guns ~~ fur shur religious groups should definitely get into advancing the cause of personal arms ~ that's what's made America safe for religious freedom.

On the other hand we have the NRA, but are you suggesting the NRA is not doing as good a job at protecting the Second Amendment as, for example, the Episcopal church?

25 posted on 09/23/2007 8:08:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“we need a list so we can see if religion comes out on top or is a very secondary reason for war”

Folks always blame Christianity for the Crusades. And while there is enough blame to go around the Muslim role is usually ignored. Muslims started a war of agression which was a continuation of camel jockey mo’s profession. The Barbary coast was home to ruthless pirates and slavers. Millions of Europeans were take there as slaves and slaughtered.


26 posted on 09/23/2007 8:11:14 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: liege; Pistolshot
Those pesky Christians should just keep quiet. You’d like that, I think. It’s not going to happen.
No, I think Pistolshot thinks people like Dobson should.
You see, as it turns out, a lot of people (like the liberal media) think Dobson speaks for you, and all Christians. It seems Dobson's got himself quite a big head and thinks that Christianity is some kind of big union, and he's the union boss. Dobson got power by saying what Christians wanted to hear. But now it seems he's gotten so full of himself he started thinking that the tail could wag the dog. But instead he's only hurt his own credibility, and his influence took a serious blow because of his folly. I think you could say this is the beginning of his own undoing, and he's got no one but himself to blame.
 
27 posted on 09/23/2007 8:12:16 AM PDT by counterpunch (“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush.” —Mitt Romney)
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To: Doofer

Let me guess. You are a Thompson supporter.


28 posted on 09/23/2007 8:12:26 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Doofer

I agree with Dobson, but what’s the alternative? We’ve got a choice between several uninspiring candidates.


29 posted on 09/23/2007 8:12:35 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Enduring Freedom

I can tell you personally that I am offended with you putting Dr. Dobson’s photo in a “ phonies” grouping!! Our family knows him personally and he is ANYTHING BUT, phonie. You may disagree with his stand on Fred Thompson, but phonie he ISNT!!!
Polly


30 posted on 09/23/2007 8:12:39 AM PDT by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: muawiyah

“On the other hand we have the NRA, but are you suggesting the NRA is not doing as good a job at protecting the Second Amendment as, for example, the Episcopal church?”

The Episcopal church has become more of a political movement as its not basing its decisions on a biblical reference.


31 posted on 09/23/2007 8:12:55 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Doofer

Where has Fred been???? He should be on all these Sunday Morning shows. Hillary sure wants to be noticed. She is on everyone. Fred has not been in the news lately. Does anyone know if he is taking a break?


32 posted on 09/23/2007 8:14:17 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: counterpunch

It seems Dobson’s got himself quite a big head and thinks that Christianity is some kind of big union,

It is because of the 2004 election when people didn’t mind hearing him speak and getting the Republicans elected. Now that he is not saying what evangelicals want to hear, they are dropping him like a disease. Nice people. Maybe he will get back in 2012 when he agrees with every word the Evangelicals want him too. I am glad I am not an Evangelical (catholic). You guys put too much pressure on people.


33 posted on 09/23/2007 8:19:31 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Doofer

In theory a trial lawyer could proclaim himself a Christian activist and be accepted as one. I cannot remember such a theory being publicly tested. The same problems are posed for the pychologists that are posed for lawyers. The Bible is THE textbook when it comes to human psychology, and whatever written by Freud or Dewey collides with it. No one has big enough arms to embrace the Bible, Freud, and Dewey at the same time. For Dobson to be a Christian activist and a professing psychologist is like being bi-spiritual.


34 posted on 09/23/2007 8:21:42 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Arthur McGowan
It’s very glib to say “God is neither a Republican nor a Democrate” and to conclude that “God”—i.e., Christians—should keep aloof from politics. Well, I don’t think God is a Republican, but he sure as hell is not a member of the party of sodomy, abortion, treason, and neo-communism.

That is one of the best posts I ever read.

35 posted on 09/23/2007 8:23:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: napscoordinator

“It seems Dobson’s got himself quite a big head and thinks that Christianity is some kind of big union,”

Don’t know about the big head, but I never gotten that impression. Christianity is a big union or club. Its easy to join and it has great benefits. Everyone is welcome and the entry requirements are low.

“You guys put too much pressure on people”

Not really, we pretty much just ask that people follow Gods rules. Perhaps its Gods pressure you are feeling?


36 posted on 09/23/2007 8:29:20 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Pistolshot
In what is supposed to be a secular type of country The Founders were Christian, they based their laws on Christianity and demanded religion be promoted in public schools in acts like the 1787 Northwest Ordinance.

Original state Constitutions required office holders swear an allegiance to Jesus Christ or Christianity.

That being stated, I disagree with Dobson. Fred Thompson is the only conservative with a chance to win the GOP nomination.

37 posted on 09/23/2007 8:31:12 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: driftdiver

Not really, we pretty much just ask that people follow Gods rules. Perhaps its Gods pressure you are feeling?

Bashing Dr. Dobson for not supporting Fred is pressure. Why does Dr. Dobson have to support Fred if he does not want to?????


38 posted on 09/23/2007 8:32:54 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Doofer

So Mr. Exum. Does this mean that you don’t approve of Jackson and Tawana Sharpton huckstering at Black churches?

Or of Obama going to black churches and electioneering?

Just asking. ‘Pod.


39 posted on 09/23/2007 8:35:50 AM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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To: Doofer
The author of that article is an idiot and doesn't know what he's talking about: SAVE THE DATE: The Florida Family Policy Council Along with Special Guests Florida Speaker of the House Marco Rubio and U.S. Congressman Adam Putnam, Presents: An Evening with Former U.S. Senator and Law & Order Actor - Fred Thompson - Friday November 16, 2007 VIP Reception 5:30-6:30pm Dinner 6:30-9:00pm Westin Diplomat Hotel: 3555 South Ocean Drive, Hollywood, Florida Call 407-251-5130 or E-mail PeggyB@FLfamily.org to have a formal invitation mailed to you. The Florida Family Policy Council is a 501(c)(3) non profit, non partisan, educational organization that does not support or oppose candidates or engage in electioneering activity. The FFPC is associated with Dr. James Dobson and Focus on the Family.
40 posted on 09/23/2007 8:36:00 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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