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Huckabee clueless on Reagan/Keyes pro-life Mexico City Policy
RenewAmerica.us ^ | September 22, 2007 | Helen Valois

Posted on 09/22/2007 12:28:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: EternalVigilance
BTW, I had a nice chat with Duncan this past week. The campaign trail has not affected him in the least. He’s the same great guy he’s always been, and he’s as steady as a rock. He’s someone every conservative should admire and emulate.

He's also dead in the water as a candidate so who cares.

41 posted on 09/22/2007 6:54:38 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: WalterSkinner
he is the modern-day William Jennings Bryan

I actually raised this comment in a Keyes thread a while ago. The similarities between Keyes & WJB exist in speaking styles & election losses only though. My understanding of WJB is that he was a populist and big-time socon. He'd make Huckabee look like a libertarian.

42 posted on 09/22/2007 6:59:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You evidently didn’t see Mike Huckabee spar against the Distinguished Representative from the Great State of Texas, His Elite Eminence Ron Paul after the latter repeated the rhetoric of Usama bin Laden at a previous debate. I hope and expect that Huckabee (or the eventual nominee) will retort at least as vigorously against the Distinguished Junior Senator to the Great State of New York and the Next President of the United States of America, Her Most Extremely Elite Eternally Exalted Eminence Hillary Rodham Clinton—we bow in reverent awe of her might and power; all glory, laud, honor, and praise be upon her forever and ever for she is Democrat. She nevertheless shall prevail.


43 posted on 09/22/2007 7:06:56 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: dufekin
You evidently didn’t see Mike Huckabee spar against the Distinguished Representative from the Great State of Texas, His Elite Eminence Ron Paul after the latter repeated the rhetoric of Usama bin Laden at a previous debate.

Actually, I did see it. I also saw the values debate where Huckabee correctly identified that we are locked in a theological struggle with Islam.

He's a good man and a great speaker, but he's simply not suitable for the WH IMO.

44 posted on 09/22/2007 7:12:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: AuntB

Yes, and HRC would beat him in AR at least 60-40. People there dream of bringing back the Clintons. It was their heyday of attention.


45 posted on 09/22/2007 8:43:55 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Do you think he supoports abortion on demand? From this?

No. But, neither has he been particularly active in the prolife movement. Obviously.

46 posted on 09/22/2007 8:46:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: 8mmMauser; Sun; wagglebee; Waywardson; Delphinium; joanie-f; MountainFlower; RachelFaith; ...

Huckabee, on governmental intervention in the Terri Schiavo case:

“I had no problem with the state getting involved because it’s one of their citizens. but I wasn’t sure how the federal government had a role in all that.”’

http://pushingrope.blogspot.com/2007/05/mike-huckabee-on-terri-schiavo.html


47 posted on 09/22/2007 8:52:39 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: DoughtyOne
"ALAN KEYES: Well, actually, it was a policy of the Mexico City Population Conference. I was the deputy chairman of the delegation. I actually negotiated the language into the final resolution at that conference."

This was hilarious. Keyes' delivery was wildly dry. Withering to the Huckster but not mean-spirited.

Well, I didn’t know squat about the Mexico policy. Now, am I pro choice? Am I an advocate of abortion?

Of course not. But nearly all the folks at the Value Voters debate could tell you. Probably one-third of all FReepers could tell you too.

But neither you nor the rest of us is asking to lead the entire pro-life wing of the party. For an ex-preacher like Huckabee, this was almost a Dan Quayle p-o-t-a-t-o-e moment. He really should have known this. This policy is why a president who is personally pro-life (like Bush) is so much better than one like Giuliani who merely promises to appoint strict constructionists (whatever that means). Bush reinstated the Mexico City policy that Xlinton had abolished.
48 posted on 09/22/2007 9:51:06 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: All
What would life be like if Lincoln had given up?

I find it interesting that people urge me to THINK about who I would vote for... then ask me to COMPROMISE on my ethics and principles for a POLITICAL STRATEGY! It makes me wonder....if all of the people who are being urged, like me, to THINK about their vote and only VOTE for a VIABLE candidate who will PERHAPS gain BOTH the liberal and conservative votes...<<< IF ALL of those people instead VOTED their CONSCIENCE, ETHICS, PRINCIPLES... Who would REALLY WIN?!! Very likely THE MOST CONSERVATIVE!

It is TIME for REAL CONSERVATIVES to take a stand, and STOP rolling over under the pressure of POLITICAL STRATEGISTS who pressure us to vote more liberally than we would otherwise vote, because a certain candidate may not APPEAR as VIABLE as another. It is time to STOP SACRIFICING and START STANDING FIRM. I think it is time for SPIRITUAL and POLITICAL REVIVAL in this country!

Say what you will...I have been in the room with Dr Alan Keyes and a small group of people, hearing him speak his heart. I have heard him a year ago discuss the issues of the war in Iraq. His vision and discernment were clearer then, than most have now! I have also heard him advise others with wisdom and discernment. His stand on the issues is sound.

IT IS TIME!

49 posted on 09/22/2007 9:52:13 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: MountainFlower
What would life be like if Lincoln had given up?

A profound question.

50 posted on 09/22/2007 10:00:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Huckabee, on governmental intervention in the Terri Schiavo case:

“I had no problem with the state getting involved because it’s one of their citizens. but I wasn’t sure how the federal government had a role in all that.”’

http://pushingrope.blogspot.com/2007/05/mike-huckabee-on-terri-schiavo.html

Huckabee both surprised and disappointed me on that.


51 posted on 09/22/2007 10:26:49 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: MountainFlower; EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson

Mountain Flower,

The ambassador is a powerful speaker, when he doesn’t speak the way you type: angry and yelling every few words, as though he can’t control his emotions. Or just as bad: as though his emotions about what he is saying are actually more important than the content.

I heard him on the local Christian radio station the other day, and he sounded as though he was chewing the host out for agreeing with him. His comments about the other Republican candidates were contemptuous and far worse than anything the Dems could have said. Someone who did not know his history would have thought that Dr. Keyes was spewing hate.

The anger and his seeming contempt for the other candidates kill his message. He has the truth on his side. He doesn’t need to make his listeners feel wrong or that the other candidates are all without any merit in order to assert the rightness of his truth.

Next March, we’re all going to have to come together to elect the Republican who wins the primary - because it is true that the worst of our candidates is better than the alternative. Dr. Keyes and all of the candidates know this. The Mexico City Policy shows us how powerful an influence Dr. Keyes could be on the next administration if he doesn’t paint himself into a corner as an adversary.


52 posted on 09/22/2007 10:28:34 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: EternalVigilance

“He’s had a year.”

NOW is the time when voters are starting to pay attention. The past year (or whatever the timeframe is) is not that important. President Reagan didn’t even declare yet, at this point in time.

Now is not the time to have burn out!

THIS, and the next few months is the time to fight for the most conservative and qualified candidate - Duncan Hunter!


53 posted on 09/22/2007 10:34:50 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: hocndoc

Well, personally, I’ve had more than enough of a largely meaningless, passionless sort of politics that doesn’t feel or express any pain, anger or even angst at the ongoing demise of the sovereignty of America and her people.

We desperately need a raging fire lit, not more wet blankets on conservatism.

And Alan is the only one I know of who can do that.


54 posted on 09/22/2007 10:36:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: hocndoc
angry and yelling every few words, as though he can’t control his emotions.

Sorry, but that's ridiculous.

55 posted on 09/22/2007 10:40:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: hocndoc
Sorry if the CAPS came off as me yelling or angry. I am far from it. It was meant for emphasis...and with a babe in my arms and one hand typing...the bold or italics is more complicated. My apologies for the seeming yelling.

I didn't hear what you heard on the radio, what you are speaking of. I have heard him speak in the past, and it never struck me that way. I also was in the same room with him on other occasions, in various places in small groups and he didn't appear to speak this way. Was it perhaps a bad day?

56 posted on 09/22/2007 10:44:35 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: EternalVigilance

We live each day hearing about smoldering fires that flare here and there in the mid-East, in the far-East, and even South America. We do not need a raging fire in the White House.


57 posted on 09/22/2007 10:45:21 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: hocndoc

You’re trying to create a caricature, one that misrepresents who Alan Keyes is, and what he does.

But, emotion, even anger, is not necessarily wrong, either.

How far does the erosion of life and liberty in this country have to go before YOU get mad? Just curious.


58 posted on 09/22/2007 10:47:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: hocndoc
We do not need a raging fire in the White House.

Perhaps we do. Every day another three to four thousand innocent, helpless American children are brutally killed and torn from the womb.

That fact doesn't create any sort of urgency in your heart and mind?

59 posted on 09/22/2007 10:49:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: All; Coleus

Some background from FR post by Coleus:

“Uphold Mexico City PolicyNo Tax Dollars for Groups - Exporting Abortion Around the World

NCHLA ^ | 06.15.07

Posted on 06/15/2007 9:59:20 PM PDT by Coleus

Uphold Mexico City Policy

No Tax Dollars for Groups Exporting Abortion Around the World

The U.S. House of Representatives is expected to take up the Fiscal Year 2008 State/Foreign Operations

Appropriations Bill (number to be announced) on Tuesday, June 19 or Wednesday, June 20. As reported by committee, the bill negates the Mexico City Policy (MCP), an Administration policy that denies federal funding to overseas nongovernmental organizations that perform or promote abortion as a method of family planning. The MCP prevents the use of U.S. tax dollars to support organizations that export abortion around the world, especially into vulnerable poorer countries.

First articulated by the Reagan Administration at a U.N. population conference in Mexico City in 1984, the policy was overturned by the Clinton Administration, then reinstated in 2001 by President Bush. Since 2001, abortion advocates have tried to reverse the MCP by legislation.
The Fiscal Year 2008 State/Foreign Operations Appropriations Bill, which designates $441 million for international family planning, stipulates that federal funding for contraceptives in foreign countries shall not be denied “to any nongovernmental organization solely on the basis of the policy contained in the President’s March 28, 2001, Memorandum” to the Administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID).

The President had restored the MCP on January 22, 2001, then implemented his policy decision through this March 28 memorandum. During House floor debate, an amendment will be offered to strike the language negating the MCP. In NCHLA’s list of key abortion votes, the last House vote on the MCP occurred in 2001. Many Members have never cast a floor vote on the issue. Members’ votes on the MCP can be found at: nchla.org/keyvotes.asp?ID=2.

For more information on the Mexico City Policy, see “Issues” on NCHLA’s web page at: nchla.org/issues.asp?ID=2.

ACTION: Please contact your Representative by FAX letter, phone, or e-mail. Call the U.S. Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121, or call your Representative’s local office. For access to Representatives’ full contact information, see: www.house.gov.
MESSAGE: “Please vote to uphold the Mexico City Policy. U.S. tax dollars should not be given to organizations that perform or promote abortion as a method of family planning in foreign countries.”
WHEN: The House could take up the Fiscal Year 2008 State/Foreign Operations Appropriations Bill on June 19 or 20. Please take action today!”


60 posted on 09/22/2007 10:50:32 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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