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Farmers rediscover allure of tobacco No longer subsidized, crop gains acres in U.S.
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Sep. 19, 2007 | LAUREN ETTER

Posted on 09/20/2007 7:06:29 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

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To: Smokin' Joe

You know as well as I do that the alleged “health” risks were only brought to light during the Third Reich in Germany and then in the US in 1964.


21 posted on 09/20/2007 8:45:06 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; pandoraou812
These days, he says, his tobacco fetches about $1.60 a pound, and there's no quota payment.

Amazing. In '92 I paid $15 per pound for American Spirit. They got bigger and stopped selling it by the pound. The price almost doubled. Now, with CO taxes, I pay about $57 per pound. Of course that's wayyyy cheaper then buying packaged cigarettes.

I think it's about time for a Boston Tea Party.

22 posted on 09/20/2007 8:47:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!!!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Someone has to supply the hookah bars popping up everywhere.


23 posted on 09/20/2007 8:47:18 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Smokin' Joe

So right that tobacco was a king in agriculture! I find this exciting. Like returning to our roots.


24 posted on 09/20/2007 8:48:48 PM PDT by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: TigersEye

I don’t even want to think about what I spend . I need to quit asap but never seem to find the right time in this crazy house.


25 posted on 09/20/2007 8:49:11 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: dfwgator

Al Gore’s sister died of lung cancer which he blames on her smoking habit. Of course, millions of octogenarians today smoked their whole lives and are still here.

But Al is on a jihad to save the world. Of course, nobody would want to live in the world that he saves.


26 posted on 09/20/2007 8:49:13 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

There have already been recent reports that tobacco smokers have fewer respiratory viral infections. Come to think of it I haven’t had a cold in over 35 years and haven’t had the flu in over 25 years.


27 posted on 09/20/2007 8:50:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!!!)
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To: pandoraou812

The right time isn’t in your house. It’s in your mind. ;^)


28 posted on 09/20/2007 8:51:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!!!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I love Milton Friedman! What a wise and knowledgeable man. Fearless and fierce as a free market economist. That quote is a keeper.


29 posted on 09/20/2007 8:52:23 PM PDT by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: TigersEye

Well I guess I will have to think on that ...I want the laser treatment. I am so afraid of gaining weight. But smoking may be worse for me then a little more weight I guess.


30 posted on 09/20/2007 8:54:42 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: pandoraou812
I need to quit asap but never seem to find the right time in this crazy house.

I know what you mean. I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

31 posted on 09/20/2007 8:57:00 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: pandoraou812
I wonder about the chemical additives in cigarettes; if they were not there, as was once the case, would people be addicted to it, would some get cancer and emphysema, or not?

My mother and father-in-law smoked like chimneys for msot of their adult life. They quit, cold turkey, in their 60s and never had emphysema nor cancer.

The truth is that people get lung cancer who have never smoked a cigarette in their lives. Where is the proof, the link, that shows that lung cancer comes from smoking? There may not be any link whatsoever.

32 posted on 09/20/2007 8:58:38 PM PDT by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: Constitution1st

The most recent research suggests that carrots cause cancer.

According to the studies which our Gubmint has spent millions on giving our tax dollars to grant junkies in acadamia...

It has been discovered that EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS EVER DIED OF CANCER has eaten carrots.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Good night. I’m going to bed.


33 posted on 09/20/2007 9:10:38 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 09/20/2007 9:10:48 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Constitution1st
Tobacco is addictive without the chemicals I will guarantee you that. But the chemicals are definitely more harmful than the tobacco itself. A few of the 800+ chemicals added to cigarettes (not 800 in each brand but in all brands combined) are benzene, saltpetre and sugars of various types. Sugars make some amazing toxins when burned.

About 7 of every 100 smokers gets lung cancer. That's about twice the rate that non-smokers contract it. Not very many either way.

35 posted on 09/20/2007 9:15:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!!!)
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To: TigersEye
There have already been recent reports that tobacco smokers have fewer respiratory viral infections.

There was a scientific report I read a few years ago which revealed cigarette smoking helped protect the lungs against TB....and ....if you'd already been exposed...it helped to keep the virus encapsulated, which prevents the TB from activating.

That aside, tobacco was used at one time as a wormer for stock.

36 posted on 09/20/2007 9:19:56 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: TigersEye
About 7 of every 100 smokers gets lung cancer.

The problem I see with most of the research is the agenda...which makes it biased from the getgo. Are those 7 smokers out of the 100 ....people who live in industrial areas? Do they have jobs which have exposed them to any other carcinogens? Are those 7 predisposed to having cancer in the first place? You just never know.

37 posted on 09/20/2007 9:32:55 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

Not subsidies, no handouts. The tobacco trade was regulated and farmers were given quotas, not cash.

If this is the definition of subsidies, then Hillary is right and giving back tax money rightfully and lawfully earned by the taxpayer is subsidizing the rich.


38 posted on 09/20/2007 9:36:06 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: grjr21

“...we now owe them some thanks for removing tobacco farmers from the welfare roles”

You obviously know nothing about raising tobacco if you think tobacco farmers are equal to welfare queens


39 posted on 09/20/2007 9:39:35 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: LaineyDee
Those same statistical problems should apply equally to the non-smokers too so I don't really have a problem with those numbers. If 3.5 per 100 non-smokers get lung cancer then 3.5 of those 7 smokers would have gotten it too if they hadn't been smokers. So, out of every 100 smokers only 3.5 will get cancer that otherwise would not have.

Here's a statistic that doesn't need any sophisticated research and never gets much press; 100 per 100 people who are born will die.

40 posted on 09/20/2007 9:48:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!!!)
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