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Where are all the Ron Paul people coming from?
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Posted on 09/20/2007 6:40:58 PM PDT by Petronski

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To: tpaine; tacticalogic
I don't think that Bork was Borked because of such admittedly deficient views on the RTKBA 20 years ago. He was being Borked because, although he was then favorable to abortion being legal, he believed that it was a state matter and the babykillers did not trust him to uphold Roe vs. Wade. His hearings were about 20 years ago. He has changed on abortion to federally support the RTL, converted from lifelong agnostic to quite serious Roman Catholicism, married a former nun, and may well have changed his mind to support RTKA without significant exception, as do his children Charles and Mary Ellen.

In any event, paleoPaulie is a delusional war wimp and surrendermonkey and fake, phony and fraud who has no business running in the GOP for POTUS.

561 posted on 09/23/2007 4:30:28 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
I certainly have read the blatantly unconstitutional Prop 187

It figures you'd be against this:

Some back ground on 187:

Generally, Proposition 187 would have prohibited state and local government agencies from providing publicly funded education, health care, welfare benefits, or social services to illegal aliens. The measure would have also required state and local agencies to report suspected illegal immigrants to the INS and certain state officials. ____________________________________________________________ This is the proposition the people of California voted *overwhelmingly* for and passed.

However, state government hacks working in concert with your buddies in the Federal government burned their ballots and declared their free election illegal, after it won big by the voters.

Nice position you have there.

562 posted on 09/23/2007 4:31:31 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

If you want to support the “constitutionalist” fraud paleoPaulie, then at east read the constitution. No matter how strongly you “feel” you are wrong. It does conservatives no good to make believe that the constitution is not the constitution. Then again, you support the paleopeacecreep so appeals to common sense are not likely to work with you.


563 posted on 09/23/2007 4:36:13 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: dragnet2

Also if California voted overwhelmingly to abolish trial of violent criminals by jury (that would be popular too), those ballots would be rejected too since California does not cancel the federal constitutional provisions guaranteeing the right to jury trial. Ignorance is not {constitutionalism” whetever paleoPaulie and his supporters may think.


564 posted on 09/23/2007 4:39:06 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

Different man, different office, different issue, although I’m sure Bork’s detractors felt the same way about him that you do about RP. The tactics are the same, and that’s what the term applies to.


565 posted on 09/23/2007 4:53:30 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: BlackElk
No matter how strongly you “feel” you are wrong.

Wrong again, the people of CA voted for prop 187 overwhelmingly, not me. They were sick of this government sponsored invasion, all aided and abetted by the Federal government, local Communist, extreme leftist and state traitors. I suppose you think that's perfectly Constitutionally OK?

In any event, since 94 when the Feds stepped in and declared their free election illegal, the results of their actions and this violent chaotic invasion can now been seen in your backyard too.

I hope you enjoy it!

566 posted on 09/23/2007 4:58:51 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Petronski
Where are all the Ron Paul people coming from?

A little outfit that used to be known as the United States of America.

567 posted on 09/23/2007 5:00:20 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Captain Kirk

“Well since you’re into McCarthyite litmus tests....”

Might I suggest that you refrain from using psychadelic drugs before posting? It helps prevent the kind of rambling incoherency you subjected me to with this post.


568 posted on 09/23/2007 10:06:59 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Petronski

That there are supporters of Ron Paul is proof that there really are right wing wackos.


569 posted on 09/23/2007 10:23:43 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: tacticalogic

To say the least, I felt the same way when I was trashing RFK nearly 40 years ago. Different man, (held a) different office, same issue: Cowardice in the face of our nation’s enemies/ Kumbaya with them rather than crush them without remorse. PaleoPaulie, RFK: on froreign policy, both sniveling cowards. What’s the difference? None of significance. Any fallen American or allied soldier in Iraq or in Vietnam is worth than an infinity of such trash as RFK or paleoPaulie. If the tactics are the same, they are well-deserved in both cases.


570 posted on 09/23/2007 11:14:34 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: dragnet2
I have noted in several previous posts that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment prohibited Prop 187 from taking effect. I don't really care if you insist on having an ignorant temper tantrum. Don't bother replying unless you wish to substantively address the 14th Amendment basis for the federal courts overturning Prop 187 and similar measures elsewhere. Like the paleopipsqueak, you are for the constitution while being against it.

I had not noticed much in the way of "violent chaotic invasion" but we do have lots of generally good Mexican residents here in NW Illinois, many of them Republicans. Whether or not they "have papers" seems irrelevant now that the immigration has been achieved and the birth rate of these new Americans will take care of the rest. That you rage against the reality does not and will not change reality. We conservatives will get back to real and unresolved issues at some point. Some of us are there already.

571 posted on 09/23/2007 11:22:25 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

I think the people trashing Bork felt every bit as justified.


572 posted on 09/24/2007 3:57:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: BlackElk
Post Article

BlackElk imagines:

This is not Borking. Bork was innocent.

Bork is not "innocent".

"-- Bork has denounced what he calls the "NRA view" of the Second Amendment, --- he has argued that the Second Amendment merely guarantees a right to participate in a government militia. --"

I don't think that Bork was Borked because of such admittedly deficient views on the RTKBA 20 years ago.
[He] and may well have changed his mind to support RTKA without significant exception, --

I'd sure like to see some proof of that 'mindchange'.

In any event, paleoPaulie is a delusional war wimp and surrendermonkey and fake, phony and fraud who has no business running in the GOP for POTUS.

We all know he has absolutely no chance of gaining the nomination, so why bother with the "delusional surrendermonkey" borking? What is gained by hyping an "admittedly deficient" isolationist as a war wimp fraud?

573 posted on 09/24/2007 8:40:15 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: Petronski

Something else is going on here, and it really frightens me. I know an avid Ron Paul supporter and it suprises the heck out of me who it is. This is a young man that served in the Army, and has been to Iraq in the Army and again while working for a contractor. The young man was raised very conservative and is now living in a pure Army town and attending college. He firmly believes that Ron Paul is the man who will get this country back on track and will take us back to our Constitution. This young man is willing to accept any other facets of Ron Paul just because he believes so strongly that RP is the only candidate that cares about this country and will take us back to the “good old days” or whatever. This young man is NOT a neo-nazi- he is caucasian and is engaged to a black woman- so I know he is not involved with that bunch. I am at a loss as to why he is a Ron Paul supporter, but he is a very strong one and is actively helping to gather RP voters- giving support speeches, and doing other campaign work. I helped raise this young man and he is like a son to me, and when I talk to him on the phone it is as if he has been brainwashed. He is not willing to listen to anything negative about Ron Paul, very Kool-aid drinker attitude which is very unlike him.


574 posted on 09/24/2007 9:09:08 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: tpaine

That is how we serve the actual truth-—by telling it. He IS a war wimp, a phony and a fraud. He IS delusional. He IS a surrendermonkey.


575 posted on 09/24/2007 10:52:35 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: tacticalogic

BUT, those who trashed Bork were NOT justified. Those who trash paleoPaulie AREjustified. That makes all the difference.


576 posted on 09/24/2007 11:00:12 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
BUT, those who trashed Bork were NOT justified. Those who trash paleoPaulie AREjustified. That makes all the difference.

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I don't have to share it.

577 posted on 09/24/2007 1:04:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; Allegra; ejonesie22; Petronski; SoldierDad; italianquaker
Of course you don't have to share it. After all, as an American, you are or were entitled, if you wish(ed), to support a Ho Chi Minh years ago, an Ahmanutjob today, Osama bin Laden or his handmaiden, apologist and propagandist sockmonkey paleoPaulie. What does not compute is deluding yourself that support for any of those enemies of the USA equates to conservatism. Conservatives are patriots and not traitors in time of war and in all other times as well.

You are also entitled to believe that the sun appears to rise in the west, that the moon is made of green cheese and that the Brooklyn Bridge would be a good investment. Each such belief would make more sense than supporting the paleosurrendermonkey and calling yourself conservative.

Five star General Douglas MacArthur: "In war, there is no substitute for victory!" True then. True now. True forever.

578 posted on 09/24/2007 1:55:17 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

You done now?


579 posted on 09/24/2007 2:08:22 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Petronski

Someone in my neighborhood put up a Ron Paul sign already on common ground in our association. I have every right to go yank it, but I want to see how long it stays there.


580 posted on 09/24/2007 2:14:01 PM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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