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Russia sparks fears of a second Cold War
Daily Herald ^ | September 17, 2007 | DAVE MONTGOMERY

Posted on 09/17/2007 11:54:45 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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A Russian air force Tupolev Tu-95 bomber is pictured being intercepted by a Royal Air Force Typhoon fighter before approaching too close to British airspace on August 17, 2007. In a creepy replay of the Cold War, long-range Russian bombers are flying outside their country's airspace in what Russian President Vladimir Putin said would be permanent surveillance missions to ward off unspecified security threats against Russia. (Handout photo by Crown copyright/Fort Worth Star-Telegram/MCT)

1 posted on 09/17/2007 11:54:49 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Don’t see anything wrong with this. It’s nice to see a country showing some nationalistic pride. However, if they want to remain a global power and regain their former lofty status, they’re going to have to start making babies and getting their act together. Right now, they are risking becoming what France was/is—a has been which still thinks it wields influence.


2 posted on 09/18/2007 12:17:50 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

1) Quite agree with you 2) It’s strange to see that so many people regard the recent Russian military build-up as a threat. After 15 years of neglect the Russian military needs some build-up, no any other reason needed.


3 posted on 09/18/2007 12:54:23 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: Freelance Warrior

our best bet is to find a good military and economic accomdation with the Russians , BEFORE they sink back into some kind of commie-ism . Between the two of us we could correct most of the worlds problems and really put the crimp on radical islam . We should work together to achieve a common goal , the survival of a non-islamic human race.


4 posted on 09/18/2007 1:14:46 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

The TROUBLING FACT is that RUSSIANS are COPYCAT repeating STALIN’S ERRORS...
Since 1929 Soviets armed and trained secretly GERMAN REICHSWEHR....To be INVADED in 1941 by the SAME GENERALS they have TRAINED as YOUNG OFFICERS....
if
PUTIN=STALIN
IRAN&SYRIA=NAZI GERMANY
Could be finally this Buildup will be useful...To face the SECOND PATRIOTIC WAR...
ISLAMIC INVASION OF RUSSIA!


5 posted on 09/18/2007 1:23:38 AM PDT by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

If they weren’t constantly making threats and arming our enemies I’d agree with you.


6 posted on 09/18/2007 1:26:09 AM PDT by DB
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

“It’s nice to see a country showing some nationalistic pride”

If they don’t go into national bolshevism then everything is fine


7 posted on 09/18/2007 1:32:01 AM PDT by Verdelet (Defensor Patriae!)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus; Freelance Warrior
Obviously you enjoy the prospect of Americans once again having to be concerned about our fighting men and women having to face the Russians by proxy. They should have learned their lesson in the 1950's, 60's, 70's and 80's. But now the American public does not have the stomach to face them down like we did then. I fear this will have an outcome that Americans will not like.
8 posted on 09/18/2007 1:37:01 AM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: LeoWindhorse
our best bet is to find a good military and economic accomdation with the Russians

There is an equal contempt to Americans in Russia as the one to Russians in America.

Neither Tu-95s flights nor ABM defence in Eastern Europe help it.

9 posted on 09/18/2007 2:18:23 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
It would be sensible for Russia to have the weather eye out for China, and given developments in China, defense modernization by China's neighbors is perfectly appropriate. However, Putin's recent habit of picking pointless quarrels with the U.S. and NATO is not.

I suppose Putin is trying to position Russia as a leader of the international grievance block but that's a dangerous game. It's also unnecessary. Russia has ample assets to be a credible, constructive partner if it puts its own house in order. Putin's appetite for mischief is gratuitous and therefore malign.

10 posted on 09/18/2007 3:35:12 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Verdelet

If they don’t go into national bolshevism then everything is fine==

“national bolshevism “? What is it? I know that the bolshevism was all-times international.


11 posted on 09/18/2007 3:57:58 AM PDT by RusIvan (It is amazing how easily those dupes swallow the supidiest russophobic fairy tales:))))
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Just stop aiding Iran. I think that’s all the USA is asking for at this stage to keep this from getting worse.


12 posted on 09/18/2007 4:00:03 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Tolsti
Russia is very cautious on Iran, paying attention on its actions. Light-water reactor building can help the bomb project only with some q-ty of 5%-enriched fuel. Iran would have to use ore otherwise.

But Russia needs the Bushehr contract. Its a question of profit, not a war with the US by proxy.

13 posted on 09/18/2007 4:12:35 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: SLB
But now the American public does not have the stomach to face them down like we did then

I think you underestimate fellow Americans. Just give them something to face.

14 posted on 09/18/2007 4:14:24 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (The barbarian)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“A Russian air force Tupolev Tu-95 bomber is pictured being intercepted by a Royal Air Force Typhoon fighter...”

I dont see any RAF markings on that fighter. Have they changed from the Red and Blue circles they used to use?

The Norwegians have been intercepting Russians also. Could this be one of theirs?


15 posted on 09/18/2007 4:47:42 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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The Norwegians don’t operate Typhoons-this is British

http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/typhoonrecognition.cfm


16 posted on 09/18/2007 4:51:50 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
What’s a few Soviet-era bombers when you have a large stockpile of ICBMs?

It’s not necessary to project power in Russia’s case.

17 posted on 09/18/2007 4:54:19 AM PDT by wolfcreek (tagline on holiday)
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To: RusIvan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism

“The ideology claims a direct link to Hegel, whom it presents as the father of idealism. It is fiercely anti-capitalist in tone and sympathetic towards certain national forms of communism and socialism, defending Stalinism and Strasserism”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party


18 posted on 09/18/2007 7:44:03 AM PDT by Verdelet (Defensor Patriae!)
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To: RusIvan

http://www.rosenoire.org/articles/russian_nb.php


19 posted on 09/18/2007 7:48:07 AM PDT by Verdelet (Defensor Patriae!)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

Always remember Churchill’s words regarding the Russkies, “I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma...”


20 posted on 09/18/2007 7:56:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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