Abizaid: World Could Abide Nuclear Iran

AP ^ | Sept 17 2007 | AP

[advertising guy]

damn

[pissant]

Glad he is retired.

[Fitzcarraldo]

sounds like he’s out of the loop

[freedomdefender]

Hey, I thought only Moveon critizes U.S. generals.

[KantianBurke]

senile is more like it.

[familyop]

He’d probably feel welcome back in Lebanon, Italy, or someplace like that.

[freedomdefender]

Does he have as many stars as Petraus?

[pissant]

Did I criticize him? He’s entitled to his opinions, which that is. And he served honorably. That does not make me not thankful that such an opinion is coming from a retired general as opposed to an active duty one.

[familyop]

He did.

[vbmoneyspender]

Hey, I thought only Moveon critizes U.S. generals.

Only Moveon calls them traitors.

[SaxxonWoods]

“Iran is not a suicide nation,” he said. “I mean, they may have some people in charge that don’t appear to be rational, but I doubt that the Iranians intend to attack us with a nuclear weapon.”

I agree, I doubt Iran intends to attack us with a nuke.

It’s Israel they will attack.

[Rudder]

Every effort should be made to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, but failing that, the world could live with a nuclear-armed regime in Tehran...

This first sentence is beyond shizo. "Every effort" means pulling out all the stops, including bombing them back beyond the stone age. But obviously the author doesn't mean he wrote, or he forgot what was written just after finishing the sentence. Or...

I can't figure out this diplomatic double-speak.

[familyop]

"I agree, I doubt Iran intends to attack us with a nuke.

It’s Israel they will attack."

Being fed-up with anti-defense attitudes, I agree! Everyone, go back to sleep.

S. Korea, U.S. verifying reports on test of new N.K. missile in Iran: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834307/posts
(4,000 kilometer range—will reach London and the Vatican—May 16th, 2007)

Israel: 'Arrow now gives full protection against Iran'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1809063/posts

[KTM rider]

Seems Abazaid gets around

[Cinnamon]

let’s not piss em off right? I mean they already wants us dead, if we oppose them, they might wants us double dead!

[nathanbedford]

"I believe the United States, with our great military power, can contain Iran — that the United States can deliver clear messages to the Iranians that makes it clear to them that while they may develop one or two nuclear weapons they'll never be able to compete with us in our true military might and power," he said.

Well, of course, the question is, will our superior military strength in fact be sufficient to contain a maniacal, suicidal atomic Iran? General Abazaid's four stars do not necessarily give him any greater insight into this question then I enjoy, or any reader possesses for that matter. He says they will not use the bomb against us and we all pray he is right, but how does he know? If he is wrong with the downside is intolerable, therefore, why should we base our foreign policy on his opinion?

The whole problem with Iran coming in to possession of the bomb is that they may not be deterable because they are fanatic and even suicidal in their lust for Armageddon. We cannot rely on general Abazaid and we cannot rely on the CIA because they have gotten everything wrong so far. We have to err on the side of prudence.

If we are having difficulty waging a asymmetrical warfare against a ragtag guerrilla in Iraq because we have not yet demonstrated, even with the surge, that we can defeat such an insurgency at a price Americans are willing to pay, why in the world would you believe that we could successfully wage a cold war with Iran? One suitcase bomb in one American city spells defeat for us. That is the very nature of asymmetrical warfare and we are simply not prepared to slug it out with atomic weapons.

If general Abazaid wants to lecture me about the strategic implications to, for example, the flow of oil through the Straits of Hormuz, or potential civil wars spreading to neighboring countries, in the event of an American strike to interdict Iran's nuclear program, I will listen with a thirsty ear. But I would also expect him to devote an equal time in his lecture to the strategic implications for upsetting the precarious balance of power in the Gulf region should the Iranians achieve the bomb.

[Almondjoy]

Love those liberals.

“I mean I doubt...........”

What the heck.. it must be nice to live in fantasy land.

I really doubt that someone would want to kill 6 million Jews.

I really doubt even a dictator would kill over 10 million of his fellow countrymen.

I really doubt that a (teacher-preacher-enter your favorite position here) would ever want to take advantage of their position with young children.

I really doubt anyone would ever kill someone just for a few dollars.

Sorry General.. Heaven on Earth hasn’t arrived yet... hate to break it to you.

[onedoug]

Another Clark.

[kbingham]

What an idiot he is. Yes, we could survive such a scenario. This doesn’t mean it’s the scenario most likely to ensure peace or is even in the top 100 abidable scenarios.

Yeah, you can survive a car wreck, a gunshot wound, a gun pointed at your head by a crazed ex-employee, a would-be suicide bomber. Sure, you can abide it all, possibly, by toughing it out, slicking your way through it, or convincing an assailant to set your differences aside and shake hands.

OH yeah, no problem. It’s been done-—>As a last resort, general, you moron, after everything else, including combat with the assailant when YOU have the advantage, has failed.

Now apparently he figures we can wait until the gun is pointed at our heads and then reduce it to a previously solved problem: the Cold War, expecting the same result.

This guy is the biggest @ss clown the military has produced since John Murtha. He’s going to cause is great grief with this nonsense by giving people an excuse to sit idly by.