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Immigration Debacle: All-or-nothingism begat nothing [The Anchoress]
http://theanchoressonline.com/ ^ | September 15, 2007 | The Anchoress

Posted on 09/16/2007 9:38:52 AM PDT by DCPatriot

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Bumping an excellent post!

Thank you!


201 posted on 09/17/2007 1:22:12 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: DCPatriot
"Not race baiting."


Okie dokie...I take you at your word.
Sometimes it's easy to misinterpret what someone is saying in print.


"And what is FROBL?


Free Republic Open Borders Lobby

202 posted on 09/17/2007 1:24:14 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: DCPatriot
"the xenophobic, bigoted screeds often found here by the usual suspects."


I don't think I misinterpreted this one. :o(

203 posted on 09/17/2007 1:26:19 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: dixiechick2000
Thanks dixiechick2000.

Not for open borders either.

Just think the peaceful illegals should be given the opportunity to come out of the shadows...and be documented.

Control the borders now!

204 posted on 09/17/2007 1:30:19 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot; wardaddy
"You are the same make and model as most of the other ill-informed posters on the subject."


Just because there are those of us who disagree with you, that does not mean we are ill-informed.
Maybe you should consider attending Charm School. ;o)

wardaddy is nothing if not polite, and is as honest as the day is long
He will treat you with the same respect in which you treat him.

205 posted on 09/17/2007 1:31:35 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: dixiechick2000
"the xenophobic, bigoted screeds often found here by the usual suspects."

Has nothing to do with race or color of skin.

I'm sure an intelligent lady such as yourself has seen them also.

206 posted on 09/17/2007 1:32:40 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
"Not for open borders either."


That's good to know!
Thank you!

As for the rest, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

207 posted on 09/17/2007 1:34:25 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: DCPatriot

Believe me...I totally understand the word “bigot”.

I’ve seen threads and posts that I certainly don’t agree with.
But, I wouldn’t say they are “often found here.”
If they were, I think they would be pulled in a heart beat.


208 posted on 09/17/2007 1:41:03 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: DCPatriot
...the alternative “solutions” out there ... are neither workable nor just.

Workable? Just? What about legal!?

The more this country abandons the rule of law, the nearer approaches our destruction.

209 posted on 09/17/2007 1:46:07 PM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: DCPatriot
Not for open borders either. Just think the peaceful illegals should be given the opportunity to come out of the shadows...and be documented. Control the borders now!

You're such a phony it hurts.

This is not a personal attack.

210 posted on 09/17/2007 2:10:55 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
You're such a phony it hurts.

This is not a personal attack.

Uh-huh......YAWN!

211 posted on 09/17/2007 2:43:00 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

DC.

I don’t much care to tell you the truth, but PC types like you and the now gone Harpies bring out the worst in me so I prefer to strain politeness.

In other words, I do it for me.

I worry about conservatism.

You guys have the same obsession about the race prism as the left.


212 posted on 09/17/2007 2:45:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (Pigpen lives!!!!)
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To: DCPatriot; PJ-Comix
...the folks with the high, strong principals can sleep at night knowing they didn’t compromise!

PJComix usually has a kewpie doll to hand out for this level of mental clarity.

213 posted on 09/17/2007 2:48:25 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (I've been waiting since 11/04/79 to do something about Iran.)
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To: wardaddy
Wardaddy...

I worry about Conservatism values too.

1) Small federal and state governments
2) Low tax rates
3) Strong defense
4) Business friendly administrations
5) An end to rising entitlements

I can't speak about the obsessions or lack thereof about race prisms, etc.. on the Left.

Furthermore, I hate political correctness. Deporting peaceful hardworking illegals guilty of sneaking into our country...which is a misdemeanor...is unwise. On many levels.

Cheers!

214 posted on 09/17/2007 3:12:27 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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In my opinion, a guest worker plan and even some amnesty is possible, but Bush has to Secure The Borders First.

Secure the borders first, four words, so simple, yet Bush can't seem to understand them.

The Government sold us an amnesty lie in 1986, we're not going to buy that lie again.

215 posted on 09/17/2007 3:24:46 PM PDT by RJL
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To: DCPatriot
A half TRILLION dollars in government coffers due to unmatched SS#'s...

I can make up figures too: The $1000 TRILLION dollars in benefits paid to illegals dwarfs the mere half trillion you claim.

A classic example of "The first liar doesn't stand a chance".

216 posted on 09/17/2007 3:42:14 PM PDT by RJL
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To: RJL
Except mine is not a lie.

$567 BILLION collected. You can look it up.

217 posted on 09/17/2007 5:20:50 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: dixiechick2000
Read in Frederick News-Post this morning...

I certainly hop that the English-only activists won't interfere with Frederick's Oktoberfest later this month.

Recall that Frederick had THREE German-language newspapers well into the 1800's and attended German church services within the memory of many living residents. Even our local dialect still retains some German words (toot, snitz, kinkling and skillpot, for example).

All in all, the Germans seems to have settled in pretty well, and we're better off than we were before they arriced. Perhaps the same thing will be said of our more recent immigrants a generation from now.

Dan Lufkin
Frederick

218 posted on 09/18/2007 5:33:19 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
I am merely posting an article that provides a different angle than the xenophobic, bigoted screeds often found here by the usual suspects.

Racist posts and threads are not allowed here. So, I don't know what you're talking about. Unless, of course, as usual, you're attributing racism or labeling "xenophobic, bigoted screeds" the posts and threads on Free Republic which call for upholding the rule of law and for not rewarding lawbreakers. When you open border shills for illegal aliens run out of your pathetic arguments for rewarding lawbreakers you play the stupid race card. Typical.

219 posted on 09/18/2007 7:12:35 AM PDT by Spiff
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Race has nothing to do with this.

I'm sure an intelligent person such as yourself knows that xenophobia and bigotry are not necessarily racist by definition.

Here let me help you....

1)Bigotry: Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, OR religion
2)Xenophobia: fear or dislike of strangers or the unknown, often used to describe nationalistic political beliefs and movements

Liberals are xenophobic and bigoted toward Conservatives, for example. Nothing to do with race.

"When you open border shills for illegal aliens run out of your pathetic arguments for rewarding lawbreakers you play the stupid race card. Typical."

No, it's typical of your side to yell race card and run for cover.

And it's typical of your side to dismiss out of hand any argument coming from another perspective...as being 'cooked up'.

For example, I have provided FACTS that show that since 1986, crime has decreased in the United States in all major categories..yet we have upwards of 20 million illegal aliens inside the borders.

Your side ignores that FACT and instead rushes to post headline grabbing articles showing heinous crimes committed by illegals. To what end?

To get everybody riled up...picking up the torches and pitchforks.

You got what you wanted Spiff. Now you'll get everything you didn't want and no political power to stop it.

Nice going. Brilliant!

220 posted on 09/18/2007 7:57:43 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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