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| 9/16/2007
| Marc Guttman
Posted on 09/16/2007 8:53:29 AM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: KDD
Message of Freedom?
Why doesn’t Ron run over and ask the fat cats he got $400 million in earmarks for to pay his bills?
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:26:56 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
To: Allegra
When people join the military, they know there is always a chance they will go to war. See, that's one of the main reasons we have a military. And we have an all-volunteer military, no less.
Some of these folks enlisted before the Iraq war. Some enlisted in National Guard, never expecting overseas duty since that's relatively rare for the Guard. Many have been recalled after leaving the military from the Reserves. So they aren't precisely comparable to your civilian job. You knew what you were signing up for. And you have renewed (AFAIK) for a specific amount of time. And your obligation is, at most, a civil contract. The troops don't have the same options if they don't want to be the beat cops for the Iraq government or if they simply think they've spent enough time on Iraq and want to get on with their lives, spend time with their families, etc.
I was merely pointing out that your situation is different from that of many of the troops.
To: Hydroshock
Building Converts? Really so that why he went from 3% to 1% in the professional polls.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:28:11 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)
To: elhombrelibre
Whats wrong with you, are you illiterate?
No, I didn't imply you said something else, so I am quoting you again.
Now, tell me why GW Bush (and the current Republican leadership) doesn't repudiate Saudi Arabia and the other middle eastern countries who fund muslim terrorism? You have made a false argument, and I am just calling it to your attention.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:29:59 AM PDT
by
hedgetrimmer
(I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
To: Petronski
He is an amusing little pussbag.I don't believe for a second that is the real reason. Mike Huckabee is an amusing "Big Gubmint, nanny state, tax raising, illegal immigrant coddling theocrat pussbag".
If a Huckabee thread gets 4 responses its unusual. There is something more here.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:31:45 AM PDT
by
Eric Blair 2084
(Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
To: Petronski
Bzzzzzzzzzt. Sorry. Youve failed again. Youre not doing very well.
Unlike you, the AG knows full well the additional legal measures that come into effect with a congressionally-declared war.
Our troops are in a war or maybe now, just a police action since there's no national military in Iraq that they're fighting now. But our nation is not at war officially. The AG is correct even if you don't like it. The authority of the executive branch, the AG, the military would all be stronger if we had declared a war which is, incidentally, what Ron Paul wanted when he offered declarations of war for both Afghanistan and Iraq.
To: MNJohnnie
Juanie, if you are against him then that is another resoundly positive mark in his favor!!!
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:34:06 AM PDT
by
Hydroshock
("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
To: George W. Bush
Look, I dont mind that youre there How generous of you! You "don't mind" that someone is doing something that doesn't affect you in the slightest. I'm sure Allegra is relieved to have your permission.
But since you signed up for it as a civilian, you have less right to complain about it than do our soldiers,
I must have missed the part of the Constitution where it discusses these gradations of which type of people have "less right to complain about" things than other type of people.
Allegra has just as much right to complain about it as you or I do. The point, which you seem to have missed, is that Allegra (and many others) are actually affected by the thing. One would think that a person's "complaining" would be in some sort of proportion with the extent to which they're actually affected by the thing they're complaining about (or not). Yet what we have seen in the case of Iraq, is that this is not the case. It's almost the opposite: the less someone is affected by it, the more "tired of" it they become and the more "complaining" they do. Which is weird, and I still haven't figured it out.
many of whom signed up for military service before the current situation developed.
This is not relevant to anything unless you're actually suggesting that soldiers must be told of all possible wars in advance when they sign up. Sorry, soldiers are grownups and they know (or should) that when they sign up for the military, military efforts requiring their participation might take place in the future. That's kinda the point, in fact.
To: hedgetrimmer
Now, tell me why GW Bush (and the current Republican leadership) doesn't repudiate Saudi Arabia and the other middle eastern countries who fund muslim terrorism? You have made a false argument, and I am just calling it to your attention.
You know, when even the United Nations can figure out that the Saudis are funding al-Qaeda, it has to be pretty damned obvious, yah?
To: hedgetrimmer
What is the false statement? I never said he had repudiated Saudi Arabia. I don’t agree that Saudi Arabia, a country that has helped us many times, is a country that officially supports terror against Americans. I do know people living there do support it, as do people in many countries. Saudi Arabia worked with the US against the Soviets in Afghanistan and against Saddam’s take over of Kuwait and against Iran’s attempt to overthrow Saddam after he started a war with Iran. Run Paul would rather give into al Qaeda, and perhaps you would too, than push Saudi Arabia towards reform. Saudi Arabia’s got a mixed record at best, but it’s not as big of an enemy as al Qaeda no matter what you say.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:36:04 AM PDT
by
elhombrelibre
(RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: Equality 7-2521; Allegra
You quote something I never said, what's up with that?
Then you call me a "neo-con", recite moonbat talking points, and ask why I'm fussing about Ron Paul threads.......
It's all about his supporters I guess. They just seem so, well...............pathetic.
Now get that burrito for Allegra, okay?
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:37:23 AM PDT
by
Lakeshark
(Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
To: Equality 7-2521
...a war-profiteer defense contractor. Are you addressing someone in particular?
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:37:32 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(Cleveland Indians: Pennant -9)
To: hedgetrimmer
Why doesn’t Run Paul repudiate the skin head supporters he has? Why doesn’t Run Paul repudiate the Truthers he has? Two can play this game. See www.outlawjournalism.com for a good idea of the types of flakes who support Run Paul.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:37:50 AM PDT
by
elhombrelibre
(RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
To: Dr. Frank fan
This is not relevant to anything unless you're actually suggesting that soldiers must be told of all possible wars in advance when they sign up. Sorry, soldiers are grownups and they know (or should) that when they sign up for the military, military efforts requiring their participation might take place in the future. That's kinda the point, in fact.
No, they don't have to be told and they did sign up. Fine. But bringing them out of the Reserves when they've chosen to leave the military simply because we have failed to adequately enlarge the size of the military when it was so obviously necessary given the operations we'd already begun in Afghanistan and Iraq isn't exactly kosher either.
Our present situation is our own fault. Bush and Rumsfeld had years to increase the size of the military and they should have done it at least three years ago. I blame Rumsfeld for this planning and recruitment failure. We simply should have more troops given the size of our operations let alone our need to respond to other more significant military threats around the world.
To: Equality 7-2521
Get Allegra her fries, you pompous little, Left wing defeatist, propagandists.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:41:27 AM PDT
by
elhombrelibre
(RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
To: George W. Bush
Why do you think we need more troops if you intend to surrender like Run Paul wants to do? You don’t need more troops to do that. You’re brilliant. Now, get Allegra her burrito.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:43:13 AM PDT
by
elhombrelibre
(RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
To: George W. Bush
Some of these folks enlisted before the Iraq war. Some enlisted in National Guard, never expecting overseas duty since that's relatively rare for the Guard. Many have been recalled after leaving the military from the Reserves.Yep...I know quite a few National Guardsmen and quite a few Reservists. And I never hear any of them complain, so they really wouldn't appreciate you anti-war types complaining for them. In fact, I can't put out on here what a lot of them say about Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha, etc. because JimRob has rules about language. They embrace the mission and I know some guys who switch units after being redeployed so that they can come back.
You knew what you were signing up for. And you have renewed (AFAIK) for a specific amount of time. And your obligation is, at most, a civil contract.
So? I honor it, no matter how frustrating it gets sometimes. I enjoy what I do. Being a part of this is an honor for me and the most fascinating thing I have ever experienced. And I have lived a pretty exciting life.
I was merely pointing out that your situation is different from that of many of the troops.
Never said it wasn't. Those guys who go out on patrol every day and engage the enemy in firefights have my utmost admiration and are my heroes as are all of these people here.
And I won't have them belittled by a bunch of anti-war types who don't have a clue about how things are here on the ground.
When you belittle my involvement here, it really doesn't bother me. I just consider the source. But when I see people disparaging our troops and their efforts, I'll bite their freakin' heads off.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:45:35 AM PDT
by
Allegra
(It's been very, very quiet here for a while...pray that I don't have to change this tagline.)
To: elhombrelibre; Equality 7-2521
Get Allegra her fries, you pompous little, Left wing defeatist, propagandists.
YEAH! And be quick about it! There's football on! Time's a-wastin'!
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:48:22 AM PDT
by
Allegra
(It's been very, very quiet here for a while...pray that I don't have to change this tagline.)
To: Lakeshark
I never quoted you at all. If you can't follow threads on Freerepublic, that's your problem and there's no need to get your panties twisted.
Also, I never called you anything. For that matter, I've never noticed nor cared about your existence at all until you addressed me with your paranoia.
Finally, what the hell are you talking about? Burritos? I don't make burritos, I don't sell burritos, and I damned sure don't serve burritos. You have me confused with someone else--which simply amplifies your confusion in general.
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posted on
09/16/2007 11:49:48 AM PDT
by
Equality 7-2521
("Ron Paul, the only rational Republican" --BadEye)
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