Posted on 09/14/2007 10:53:26 AM PDT by neverdem
>>This personality type thrives where there is a substantial part of the population that is parasitical, that does not have to produce anything in order to live comfortably, the idle rich, as it were.>>
Powerful insight. Thanks for making me think a little about it.
nice post thanks....I love history
IMHO, Coast to Coast is one of the most insanest radio shows there is. That is what I call talkradio for those who cannot sleep and for the tinfoil crowd.
Hiliary is nothing so interesting as Caligula. Until recently Dallas had a mayor named Laura Miller. My son once described her as the type of suburban houswife who wakes up in the morning and says to herself, “Now what shall I do today? I know, I will become mayor.” I watched her confront Petraeas, read off her brief, anf then ask about the lamest of questions in a day of lame questions. I said to myself: “THIS is our next president?” She reminds me also of Newt. But of instead of the brightest kid in class, she is the grind who always has an answer but never says anything that is not conventional. The totally conventional mind, the kind that the Seven Sisters crank our by the millions and whose total contribution to human wisdom is something below zero.
Not going to Iraq would lead to a mess? What do we have there now?
Maybe we could have focused on capturing or killing Osama Bin Laden, destroying as much of the al Queda network as possible and attacking the *REAL* leader in state-sponsored terrorism: Saudi Arabia.
How true... their roads are still useable.
Shame.
multilineal cultural evolution which birthed relativism...rubbish
there is no doubt that while the world is different and we are different....more benevolent to be sure, yet there are similarities between us and Rome:
Jared Diamond ...more rubbish...
We are decaying from within and from allowing our borders to be wide open.
There is no doubt that inability to enforce ones border is paramount and this is where we are quite a bit like Rome though their invasion was from the north mostly and better armed (I hope)
Governmental fiscal irresponsibility....another common theme.
The rise of homosexuality...i know the social libs here will scoff but at least in the west this has been a clear signal repeatedly.
Dissolution of a united belief system or dare I say religion. Nations that lasted the longest had shared views on the almighty. Its an adhesive folks of course today laugh at since we are so much smarter today.
There are some other comparisons too. For me, if the host culture is willing to kill one in four of its offspring for convenience then there is no way in hell that civilization can stave off the barabarians period. I believe we are living that right now.
So while unlike Rome in many ways....we are like them in others....though Im uncertain how they were on abortion. Since they had no birth control as effective as ours, it may have been less an issue.
It's worth repeating. If this country falls, it will be because we sabotaged ourselves. IMHO, political correctness is doing the job. Wasn't Boas the clown at Columbia U. that hated white devils?
Franz Boas was at Columbia about 100 years ago and is sorta the father of anthro-cultural relativism like the sort espoused by some here.
That on a conservative board one would find revisionists spouting nonsense not much different than Ward Churchill or Cornel West is sad....very sad.
How far we have fallen.
I'm afraid that you are wrong on both counts. Rome was sacked by the Visigoths and the Vandals, the Ostrogoths conquered Italy, but didn't sack Rome.
This is the LONDON Times, owned by Rupert Murdock, not the NY (or LA) Times.
For the mystery of lawlessness doth already work: only there is one that restraineth now, until he be taken out of the way.
THIS ONE IS DUBYA....
Are you suggesting here that the men and women serving in our armed forces are not motivated by a desire to serve?
Now, the signing bonuses are at record levels--despite our Active Duty military being only 1/25 the size of WWII's...
LOL! Interesting that you picked as your comparison the historic period when our military forces were the absolute largest they have ever been by a very wide margin and when they were mostly conscripted.
Not exactly apples to apples with today's all-volunteer force.
How big is our military now compared to its size in 1977?
I don't mean to besmirch those who stay in because of these bonuses, but I do think that there's some analogy to resorting to mercenaries rather than sense of duty.
The fact is that unlike in 1941, we do not have rampant unemployment. Unlike 1941, the average working man's wage is not a survival-level pittance. Unlike 1941, there is a lot more to the average recruit's military training than digging latrines and close-order drill.
In 1941, the average volunteer joined up because the army paid as much as the back-breaking civilian work he would be lucky to get and because he wanted to serve his country. And in 1941 a lot of civilian work - like mining and construction - wasn't much less dangerous than serving in many combat assignments.
In 2007, the average military recruit has other employment options that do not entail heavy or dangerous physical labor, jobs are plentiful compared to 1941, and the skills and discipline the armed forces teach make soldiers and marines very attractive to stateside employers.
Very few software companies were offering jobs with 401(k) plans and health packages to grunts home on leave during WWII.
How many WWII volunteers would have reenlisted if there were plum jobs waiting for them at home?
And now, the US law has been changed to allow the military to go out and recruit foreigners... Already, about 100 of the deaths of US service personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan have been non-citizens.
If the immigration laws in 1861 were as restrictive as the immigration laws in 2007, then the Union army would have been chock full of noncitizen soldiers. Thousands and thousands of Germans, Irish and Central Europeans fresh off the boat were immediately Americanized and sent to the front. At that time native-born citizens who had money could avoid conscription by paying immigrants and poor people hard money to fight in their stead.
Are the tens of thousands of Union dead who fought under such arrangements mercenaries?
If the volunteers US armed forces of 2007 are mercenaries, they are much less so than the volunteers of World War II and the volunteers of the Civil War.
In 2007 residents of this country have many more options than were available to US residents in 1941 or 1861.
The US has never fought a foreign war this long or this intensely with an all-volunteer force in its entire history.
Characterizing this war as a war of mercenaries is not only an insult to our forces in the field, it is a laughable error.
Our war effort in Iraq is the work of citizen soldiers such as this country has never seen.
Almost every single volunteer who has reenlisted in this war could have found a higher-paying and safer job back home, but chose to fight.
In World War II and the Civil War, only a much smaller percentage of volunteers could say the same.
You've been watching way too much TV.
What we have is a murderous dictator gone and all suspicions about Iraq and WMD gone with him, both his sons dead, Al-Queda on the run, a democracy which was voted in by about 60% of the people, and violence way down.
Iraq is moving forward. Thank God for President Bush.
“You’ve been watching way too much TV.”
I haven’t had a television set for 4 years.
You must be reading stuff like the New York Times then. Better find some sources that tell you some facts about the progress being made in the Mid-East.
"The World" did NOT "go dark", only parts of Western Europe. The Eastern Roman Empire whose capital was Constantinople did pretty well during Western Europe's "Dark Ages", until it was finally overrun by the Muslim Turks in 1453
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