Blue-State Employment Blues : As Red Staters Keep More of What They Earn, Jobs Flow Their Way

National Review ^ | 09/14/2007 | Greg Kaza

[Carry_Okie]

What desirable climates? About the only blue state that I can think of that has a desirable climate (read: warm) is California, and that's still only part of the state. How is New Jersey a desirable climate?

I was speaking specifically of California, but Hawaii passes too. Ever checked real estate prices there, or voter demographics?

[Publius Valerius]

Two pretty small portions of the country, though: Southern California and Hawaii (which I did forget about), and each of them have other explanations for high prices. Southern California has a super high population, which obviously tends to drive housing costs higher (same with N.J., by the way). Hawaii, being islands halfway around the world, have transportation and material costs that are considerably higher than the rest of the country.

I just don't think it's climate, otherwise someplace like Florida or South Carolina would have sky-high real estate prices too, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Seems to me like the primary factor is population density, although some places seem to buck this trend, like Dallas, Houston, or Atlanta, for instance.

[KeyesPlease]

“...but the implication that private wages follow government spending is absurd on its face.”

So you don’t think government spending causes upward wage pressure? Seriously?

“To a degree, but not like Silicon Valley, peninsula VC firms, or the San Francisco financial district do.”

So, to a degree, the impliction is true on its face?

D’oh.

[samm1148]

Just a friendly warning from blue PA. What socialists do is use federal money to beef up hiring in the urban areas. They use affirmative action to bring in uneducated, mostly minority (democrat voters) thus increasing the population in those areas.

Depending on the structure of a state government the socialists usually take over the state houses. Money is soon funneled off of rural areas creating a master serf relationship between the workers and parasites in the cities.

I seen this growing up in Maryland where tribute was taken from the western counties for the trash in Baltimore. PA is largely run by Philly and Pittsburgh now.

You red staters need to think about defeating affirmative action laws and putting your cities on a pay as you go basis so this doesn't happen there.

[Carry_Okie]

So, to a degree, the impliction is true on its face?

Given that you can't spell, I'll spell it out for you: California gets $.74 on the dollar from its taxes. That has a DEPRESSIVE effect on wages. That Federal largesse may have local effects (for example around LLL or Space Park) is undeniable, but in an economy as large as California it's nada compared to private industry such as Silicon Valley. Being intellectually honest (unlike you), I allowed for local effects in the wording of my post. That you need to take advantage of language that accommodates the exception as if it proves a generality may be despicable, but apparently that isn't enough to stop you.

D’oh.

So, I'll let you speak for yourself.

[cappy26]

Thats a no brainer—the blue states are loaded with labor unions which add costs of up to two times for any good or service consumed.

Red states mostly labor union free produce cheaper goods and services,thats why many moving to red states

[mimaw]

Welcome to our tax hell.

[Springman]

Ping.

[grellis]

Test ping, but an article of interest--a lot of what we know, especially the stats. I sure hate seeing it spelled out in black and white, though.

[Mark was here]

Greg Kaza — wasn’t he the State Rep from Rochester?

[grellis]

I don’t know if he’s the rep. Bishop is the Senator from the area, went to high school with my husband. I grew up there, too, but haven’t been back in a few years.

[KeyesPlease]

I apoligize for teh speling eror. Pleeze forgive me. Didn’t mene to irtate you.

Let me spell it out for you - simply, so you can understand. People in blue states make more money because it is more expensive to live in those places. Blue states tax and spend - a lot. Consequently, wages must be higher to comepensate for the higher costs of living there. For example, in my blue state of NJ, the state budget is over $32 billion - which comes out to over $4k per person just in state government spending alone.

I suggest that when making an argument, whether correct or not and which allows for exceptions, one should not express in absolutes. Such a manner of conduct will prevent your resorting to insults.

Have a good day.