Posted on 09/10/2007 3:02:19 PM PDT by plain old dave
If he is captrued he gets due process. Like the Nazis and the Jaopanese.
now with some Al Quaida we’d be just happy to avoid that by killing them in the field but this guy we would really, really like to question.
IATZ....
Second time today.
The Trolls are out in Force!
Could we use torture when questioning him? Waterboarding? panties on the head? Koran in the toilet? Or do those things violate the Geneva accords?
I suspect the M.O. will be the usual, post, don't defend your position so you won't get banned.
Why don't you go back under the rock you crawled out from under like Osama bin hide'in.
>>Could we use torture when questioning him? Waterboarding? panties on the head? Koran in the toilet? Or do those things violate the Geneva accords?<<
Generally I oppose those sorts of things. But I have a hard time opposing it in this case.
However, i bet like with Saddam he gets treated with kid gloves for P.R. reasons until we hang him.
They are not prisoners of war. They are illegal combatants. War has not even been declared.Is that a semantic argument I detect?
Me too, seems the Mods are letting less play time lately. ;-D
As I recall our troops allowed Saddam to be beaten by an Iraqi interpreter when he was captured, and later he was paraded in front of the cameras in his whitey tighties. Isn’t such humiliation now considered “torture” since Abu Ghraib?
Also D.M.W.
Well, he was!
I like the kind of due process that Uday and Qusay received.
It’s a legal argument. Thompson is the one who interjected the law into this debate, in true lawyer fashion. Bin Laden does not deserve due process of law.
Due process??? Right !! Sure !! Load, aim, fire, bury.
Does Fred want to win?
Rudy muffs it with “Being an illegal alien is not a crime”.
And Fred tops that with “due process” for Bin Laden.
What the hell is going on? Are they taking political stupid pills?
What did you want him to say?
It reminds me of when nobody could persuade Giuliani to criticize Patrick Fitzgerald during the Libby trial. These federal lawyers stick together.
I think you made a mistake. lol
Bin Laden is the product of a movement and receives his leadership position from that movement. His replacement, with equal authority and intelligence will be raised up by that movement faster than we can put him in handcuffs.
Until the money men in our "allies" like Saudi Arabia quit funding Al Queda and using the Wahabi version of Islam to create the mush-for-brains sheeple that Al Qeuda recruits for cannon fodder, there will always be an Al Qeuda and it will always be the threat it is now.
Al Queda is merely the military wing of an Islamic fundamentalist movement (philosophy) that is much larger than Al Queda, has no specific and permanent head (and doesn't need one), will always create "leaders" of its military cells and military organizations (self created) as needed and remains equally dangerous from its "peaceful" members among organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood, due to their political subversion, particularly in the west.
Focusing on Bin Laden is a great and wonderful distraction that the entire Islamic fundamentalist movement must thoroughly enjoy watching western audiences fawn over.
Am I saying it will not help to capture Bin Laden. No. It will; briefly. But we will not have time to cheer too long.
But he is not going to be an "intelligence asset". I have no doubt that pain and death would be perceived by him as a blessing to be embraced and not something that will break him. And, not too long after his capture, life between the west and Al Queda will continue as it is now, without much of a change.
The true "head" (an unholy "trinity") of Al Queda is what creates and sustains it and that is contained in:
(1) financially in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States (our fictional allies); and
(2a) religiously and philosophically with the Sunni-Wahabi clerics (Saudi national form of Islam); and
(2b)the Muslim Brotherhood - philosophical incubator of every non-Shia Islamic fundamentalist-centered terrorist or political movement in the world, from every Palestinian terrorist group, to Hamas, to Al Queda, to Hezbolla [through an alliance of convenience with the Shia Mullahs in Iran], to the leaders of the Sudan, to the Muslim groups trying to topple the "Muslim" governments of Algeria, Morocco and others. As well as the behind the scenes movement behind all the Islamic-fundamentalist-appeasing political groups in the U.S., the U.K., France, Italy and Germany.
If everyone that "the west" could identify as an "Al Qeuda" member were picked up in one day, in less than a month the financing, the religious approval and the philosophical and political support of Saudi money, Wahabi clerics and the Muslim Brotherhood would have an equal network up and operating in no time. And with their help and the media's support the western acts of "crushing" Al Queda will be presented as the cause of its resurrection (maybe with a new name).
Until the true head is cut-off - Saudi and Gulf state money to finance it, Wahabi clerics for the religious O.K. and the Muslim Brotherhood for the philosophical and organizational framework that demands what Al Qeuda demands (the Caliphate) - there will always be an "Al Queda".
“We’re going to eliminate them. Get bin Laden, find him. I want his head in a box.”
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