MD Straw Poll Results - Ron Paul Wins

MD GOP ^ | 09/05/2007 | MD GOP

[eboyer]

MY point is that Guliani and Romney should be far more hated.

On domestic policy - Ron Paul is a dream candidate. Heis also exciting young voters enough to check out the conservatives - until Romney and Guliani supporters scare them away from the GOP for good.

[dirtboy]

MY point is that Guliani and Romney should be far more hated.

I think Rudy is about as despised as can be on FR, in case you were asleep the last few months. Romney at least talks some conservatism.

On domestic policy - Ron Paul is a dream candidate.

Your dream candidate. Also al Qaeda's dream candidate. A nightmare for the sane among us. Fortunately, a nightmare that will not come to pass.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

Hey GOP Chick,

Ron Paul had an interview just recently and the question came up on earmarks. Paul said that he used to vote to strike them, but since the law change to allow for full disclosure, he passes all of them up to the appropriations committee as they are really the ones that decide on the earmarks.

Personally I would never eat an unclean animal like shrimp that lives off the crap in the ocean but that is just me.

The real problem lies not with the earmarks, but with the excessive taxation which then forces people to fight over the loot. I can’t blame districts for wanting some of their tax funds back. Where the real outrage lies is with the entitlement system that makes earmarks look like chump change. Entitlements and taxation is the root of the problem.

[eboyer]

Your dream candidate Yes, my dream candidate. Someone that actually talks about conservatism. Someone that isn't going to play semantic games and name war czars, knowing full well a Schizophrenic foreign policy is the best thing a reprepresentative republic can truly accomplish. Dr. Paul would use the soapbox to talk about how the incorporation of our rights has went too far. He would stop being Dr. Know and become President Veto. Sign me the frick up!

[dirtboy]

Someone that actually talks about conservatism.

Until wild shrimp need an earmark.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

I would love to have a “President Veto”!

[dirtboy]

Paul said that he used to vote to strike them, but since the law change to allow for full disclosure, he passes all of them up to the appropriations committee as they are really the ones that decide on the earmarks.

Now compare that to Tom Coburn, who doesn't go along with the earmark game at all. Coburn is a principled conservative. Paul is a hypocrite.

[1_Of_We]

This thread doesn’t appear in Breaking News now. Did you remove it to take attention away from Paul?

[dirtboy]

This thread doesn’t appear in Breaking News now.

WAAAAH! WAAAAH! WAAAAH!

Did you remove it to take attention away from Paul?

No, it got removed because it didn't meet FR guidelines for breaking news - namely, that the news actually be breaking AND highly relevant.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

I’d much prefer that Paul didn’t go along with earmarks, but I also know that they money is already in the budget and if earmarks do not assign the funds, then some agency will. Earmarks certainly aren’t a perfect tool but I don’t think it is as big a problem as what many are led to think.

[bcsco]

Yes, my dream candidate. Someone that actually talks about conservatism.

But who's a libertarian. And every Ron Paul supporter I've run into on these threads, when called on it, has supported/acknowledged his libertarian positions. So, let's just admit it and stop referring to his conservative credentials. We've gone way past that and it's not doing it for you here. Got the message???

Now, maybe, just maybe, a message like "Hey, we're libertarians, and have we got the candidate for you!" may just not fly here on FR. But it would be honest and aboveboard. And, who knows?

[eboyer]

He votes against all appropriations - even ones requested from his constituents.

Save your rhetoric for someone that is clueless dirtboy.

[dirtboy]

I see you have been outed as part of the great CFR/Trilateralist/Build-A-Burger conspiracy against Ron Paul. Removing the thread from Breaking News slows Paul’s relentless march towards the middle of the top of the second tier of candidates.

[NYC GOP Chick]

While he doesn’t like earmarks in general they DO exist. That he chose to take advantage of them to help the U.S. is commendable in my book.

And the fact that his earmarks for $400,000,000 would go to his home district had nothing to do with it, right?

Ron Paul's Personal Pork Projects

Here is a list of some of the pork that Paul has applied for.

1. $25,000 for the Brazoria County Sheriff to establish a “Children’s Identification and Location Database.”

2. $8 million for the marketing of wild American shrimp.

3. $2.3 million for shrimp fishing research.

4. $3 million to “secure the acquisition of the McGinnes tract, protecting its critical natural resources and helping consolidate refuge inholdings.”

5. $5 million to expand the cancer center at Brazosport Hospital.

6. $200,000 for the Matagorda Episcopal Health Outreach Program to fund a “National Health Service Corp Scholar.”

7. $4.5 million to study the effects of the health risks of vanadium.

8. $3 million to test imported shrimp for antibiotics. (Does anyone think there is a big shrimp industry in Paul’s district?)

9. $10 million to repair the Galveston railways causeway bridge.

10. $1.18 million for “Personalized Medicine in Asthma”

11. $100,000 for a “data-driven automated system for nursing students on the Texas Gulf Coast.”

12. $257,000 to “prepare graduates from the doctoral program at the University of Texas Medical Branch School of Nursing to assume faculty roles in schools for nursing with a deficient number of doctoral level faculty.”

13. $1.4 million to buy buses for the Golden Crescent Regional Commission.

14. $2 million to buy buses for Galveston.

15. $5 million for highway spending.

16. $2 million to replace facilities for Galveston bus service.

17. $3 million to replace facilities for the Golden Crescent Regional bus facility.

18. $2 million to repair the Galveston trolley.

19. $2.14 million to renovate the Edna Theater.

20. $13 million for I-69 highway project.

21. $30 million the Texas Maritime Academy to refurbish a ship.

22. $4.5 million to maintain Cedar Bayou. Plus another $9 million

23. $15 million for “construction at GIWW Matagorda Bay.” Plus another $5.8 million

24. $100,000 to maintain Chocolate Bayou.

25. $2.5 million to maintain Double Bayou.

[marsh_of_mists]

The fact is that earmarks do not increase government spending. They do not add any extra expense to the bill. That money was already "marked" to be spent, as long as the bill was passed. It was just a matter of how and to whom and into what pork it was divied up. Paul felt that he might as well introduce his constituents own earmarks to bring some of the tax money back to them, since it would just have been wasted on other earmarked pork anyway. Ideally, in Paul's world, such bills should never come into existence at all. Thus, he votes against them and he would veto them all if he were president.

[eboyer]

I’m a libertarian leaning conservative - as most real conservatives are.

Issues such as immigration, and abortion are when I break hard egainst the libertarian mindset - and apparently Dr. Paul is in the same boat.

[dirtboy]

He votes against all appropriations - even ones requested from his constituents.If he didn't pass along the earmarks in the first place, they would not be voted on at all. You know, like principled conservative Tom Coburn does.

Save your rhetoric for someone that is clueless dirtboy.

Why do you think I repeated it for you? You are deliberately clueless. It's incurable as a result, but others can be helped...

[dirtboy]

$2 million to repair the Galveston trolley.

Boy, that sure is a vital national security project.

[NYC GOP Chick]

It doesn’t matter how Clintonian he gets in trying to rationalize his Byrd-like grabs, but the fact is that he has his snout in the public trough as much as just about everyone else in Congress.

[dirtboy]

The fact is that earmarks do not increase government spending

You really need to stop sniffing glue. Now spending isn't really spending! BWAHAHAHA!