"Consumption" was the lay term for tuberculosis.
Posted on 08/28/2007 4:39:18 PM PDT by Bigun
There are studies ongoing that show revenues would increase....YAWN...Just More of your hot air.
Check #143. It's a 4.9% tax increase.Thanks, I knew I could count on you to come up with the correct figure...
Either way adding 0.82% isn't insignificant.
Inclusive versus exclusive is the only deception card you have left to play. That card will be taken away from you in time. Stay tuned.LOL! Oh, is there a new secret study coming out that only you are privy to? ...Or maybe someone will teach you what tax inclusive and tax exclusive means.
You Fairtaxers like using the 23% rate because it makes the cost of government so much more visible than using the actual 30% sales tax rate.< /sarcasm >
Ever since you started posting on these threads (or maybe ever since I've noticed) you've claimed all these studies and exciting things are going to happen...So far it's more than hot air it's out right lies.
I believe that was TB.
Look you were caught doing what you always do which is to cut and paste certain facts that you omit details fromI was caught? More like you were caught looking like a fool...again.
What exactly are you referring to?
The fact the Fairtax study shows the 23% rate isn't quite enough? Or maybe the Fairtax study says gross wages would be reduced. Or maybe the new Excise tax bureau. Or maybe the fact the Fairtax DOES tax other taxes.
Or maybe the fact that well before one evil IRS employee will be fired 50 NEW tax collection agencys would have to be built/leased, staffed with employees trained on the NEW tax, new desks, new computers, programs and progammers...All that and more well before one dime of Fairtax is collected. AND how dare I ask or bring up the subject of where all the money would come from to fund the new behemoth 50 state (turned federal) bureaucracies?
Or maybe you don't like it when I ask which is the lie?:The Fairtax makes the true cost of government more visible OR:
Increased paychecksEven you said your (secret) study shows there would be MORE money for the government...Is that supposed to thrill us when the rest of us are talking about LESS money for the government?...Oh wait, that's right. we're all supposed to alter OUR lifestyle by buying used crap to teach the government a lesson...
Prices about the same as now (some say less).
Increased purchasing power.
More money for savings.
Interest rates reduced 25%.
Easier to save for a house.
The government remains funded at the current level without a hiccup
I suppose,because the fairtax is carved in stone never to be altered or amended it would never occur to them to tax used items .
What about a National Tax, including retail, goods, and services, exempting groceries, and necessaties, etc....
When you put the first exemption in you have opened the door wide open for the Guchi Gulch crowd (lobbiest) to beg congress to give "necessity" status to their client's product or service.
I think you are right....but more of pure consumption tax that doesn’t task the federal government with sending monthly checks out...or the “prebates”. A CT that collects more than all income tax (so that it can be abolished even though the 16th amendment gives the G-men the right to tax you anyway) but would allow for privitized retirement rather than taxation.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that analysts involved in HR 25 are not conducting ongoing studies?
And you are saying that anyone that professes to have seen a preliminary report is a liar?
What are you going to do when you are shown to be wrong? Disappear?
Do they have employees?
Do they lease an office space?
Do they order office materials?
Do they pay for maintenance?
Do they pay for utilities, telephone, computers, office equipment, etc?
Etc.
In order to estimate the level of embedded taxes for any product or service, the supply chain of the business needs to be defined and quantified.
LOL! Wouldn't that be something?
If history is any teacher however, it is FAR more likely that he would just be back on the next thread with the same old BS all over again.
"Consumption" was the lay term for tuberculosis.
Explain to me what “without any exemptions” means, and is an exemption?
same result...
Check out the history of this institution:
http://www.uccs.edu/
It’s interesting....
LOL! Wouldn't that be something?My thoughts exactly.
You are saying that analysts involved in HR 25 are not conducting ongoing studies?No, I'd say that if anyone did hire an analyst that WAS NOT doing studies they would be as stupid as your question.
And you are saying that anyone that professes to have seen a preliminary report is a liar?No, I'm saying IF there are preliminary reports by analysts hired to come up with predertimened results YOU aren't privy to the "preliminary" information...
So yes, if history is a guide, you are a liar.
Without any exemptions means that the tax would apply to all new goods and services without exception.
Do they have employees?LOL!Do they lease an office space?
Do they order office materials?
Do they pay for maintenance?
Do they pay for utilities, telephone, computers, office equipment, etc?
Etc.
In order to estimate the level of embedded taxes for any product or service, the supply chain of the business needs to be defined and quantified.
3 emplyees. Employee's payroll tax is 7.65% each.
Each one of the other 7 can also reduce their price 7.65%. What's the total percentage that can be reduced in this scenario?...
C'mon stop pretending, you either know the answer or you're proving once again you're full of hot air, a useful idiot, or a liar.
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