Posted on 08/27/2007 10:07:52 AM PDT by drzz
I’m shocked. Truly.
Where’s the cartoon? I want a T-shirt, hat, bumper sticker etc. etc.
The Swede ambassador to Iran is a woman?
Why they really get upset:
What is Islam based on?
Mohammed went into “trances” and fits (like epileptic fits) when he was given the “word of God” and would shout out what he was told. These would be written down by his followers. This is the makeup of the Koran.
When Mohammed was just walking and talking and acting like “normal”, his words and deeds were written down by his followers and this went into the Hadith. Now, acting “normal” for Mohammed was taking 12+ wives (including a 6 year old), taking slaves (including sex slaves), executing infidels, conducting raids for treasure, etc.
Now, this is where it gets complicated.
A large part of the words he spoke in trances were “taken back” by Mohammed. He determined them to be the work of the devil (thus they are called the “Satanic Verses” and these are the same verses that Mr. Salman Rushdie got in trouble for writing about).
Now, how Mohammed determined which verses were from God and which were from Satan I do not know.
Also, there were literally dozens of widely different versions of the Koran and Hadith floating around for several hundred years after Mohammed death until a Fatwah was decreed to destroy all but one version. Now, even Mohammed could not remember what he was told by God and forgot it (those are his words as written in the Hadith) so I do not know how the powers in charge decided which was the correct version.
Also according to the Hadith, Mohammed turned people into monkeys, you can determine a child’s sex depending on whether the male or female has an orgasm first (that advice came directly from the Angel Gabriel), dogs and cats are evil and should be killed, that the devil lives in your nose at night (and how to get rid of him in the morning), chess is forbidden, muslims have one intestine while infidels have seven, dont pray looking up or your eyes will be snatched away, that one wing of a fly is poison but the other is the cure, that drinking camel urine is good for you and I could go on.
And that Mohammed himself didn’t even know if he was going to heaven. If even Mohammed doesn’t know, what chance does the average muslim have?
And for some non-PC info, Mohammed was described as a white man.
Now, if you can bear it, to compare to the Gospels of New Testament.
Jesus was someone who lived a very humble life and was killed for basically saying he was a King and Son of God (blasphemy) by the powers in charge (Roman and Jewish). The government wanted Jesus destroyed and wanted his growing movement destroyed (as it threatened their power). If, after 3 days, the followers of Jesus proclaimed he has risen from the dead, (just as he predicted), and is truly our Savior, the High Officials would have wanted to destroy such a “myth.” They could have easily done this by producing the dead body of Jesus and saying “Your Messiah is still dead and so is your movement” or producing many eye witnesses of the dead Jesus. But they couldn’t.
The letters that make up the New Testament were written by the eye witnesses of the events of Jesus. They were written in just one generation when many other eye witnesses were still alive. They were written without collusion from other Apostles. Even if any of the Apostles wanted to “add” to the “myth” of Jesus, they would have done so in a very disjointed and easily detectable fashion. Yet, the main Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) that describe the life of Jesus are amazingly in harmony with one another and the small differences are consistent with what we would see today if four people witnessed a major event and wrote about the event apart from each other. The Gospels can be traced back to their sources and are basically unchanged from their originals.
The Bible is the most investigated historical document in the history of the world. It has been investigated by scientists, philosophers and archeologists using technology undreamed of when the Bible was written. It is been desperately tried to be “disproved” for over 2000 years, yet, the Bible still stands as the truth.
The stories of Jesus still make sense to us today. It may be because they are true, it may be because they are based in love or it may be because they were written to tell the people of the Word of God.
Regards,
2banana
Now there's a dog for Michael Vick.
Muhammad is a dog.
Time for a rename:
Terror-an, Iran is now the official capital name.
Ahh so that's what that stuff coming out of my nose is every morning....Satan. And here I thought it was conjestion.
MOANER....Muslims Outraged About Nearly Everything Religious.
STORY HERE / posted on the blog of Flemming Rose, the man who accepted to publish the Danish cartoons
The people who publish the cartoons with Muhammad are SECULAR MUSLIMS
A group of secular Muslims in Sweden wants to organize an exhibition showing drawings of the prophet Mohammed as a dog and subsequently stage a public debate with the artist, Islamic scholars and other opinion makers.
SEMUS, Secular Muslims of Sweden, presented their initiative last week as a reaction to Swedish art institutions rejection of drawings of Mohammed made by Lars Vilks. Hooman Anvari, spokesman for SEMUS, explained that the debate about the drawings has focused exclusively on the issue of free speech, and in order to move beyond this issue somebody has to show the drawings to the public.
Its impossible to engage in a public debate about the drawings without having seen them. Thats the reason why I find it important to have them on public display. Its my intention to have a dialogue with Lars Vilks about the drawings, Hooman Anvari told Svenska Dagbladet.
He added that he finds the drawing tasteless and awful.
Lars Vilks, 60, who was a professor at the Academy of Art in Bergen, Norway 1997-2003, said that he had been invited by an art school to participate in an exhibition having dogs as it main theme. The organizers put no restrictions on the works to be presented. But right before the opening of the exhibition the art school removed the drawings of Mohammed. So did another art institution. Both referred to a possible security threat, and one of them in an interview with Jyllands-Posten underlined the fact that the drawings might be offensive to the Muslim minority in Sweden.
The controversy has caused a heated debate in Sweden, and last week a member of parliament called on the government to provide security for art institutions that present exhibitions with controversial art.
Artistic freedom and the right to free speech has been put on hold and needs to be defended, Cecilia Wikstroem, member of parliament for the conservative Peoples party, said to Dagens Nyheter.
What we have seen over the last couple of years since the publication of the Mohammed cartoons in Jyllands-Posten is that people are showing all kinds of considerations, she added.
She has raised the issue with the minister of justice and the government.
It should be possible to call on the police in cases like this. We need a serious survey of the situation in order to find out what happened to free speech. Do the institutions feel more insecure today? If there is a sense of a growing threat then we have to provide ressources to strengthen security.
Lars Vilks, the artist behind the drawings, doesnt think there is any need for more security.
The threat only exists in the minds of the organizers. They have watched too much television, Vilks told Dagens Nyheter.
But he supports the idea that art institutions should be able to contact the authorities if they feel threatend.
Writing on his blog Vilks acknowledges that his work hasnt been supported by the art world.
To change the situation the art world has to reconsider its relationship with Islam and so called weak minorities lacking confidence. But thats a big change that isnt likely to take place in the near future. Anyway, I think I am on to something: When you define Muslims as weak and lacking confidence you create a reality of we feel sorry for them. You put a whole group of people under the same label weak. Probably, it would be better to do exactly the opposite. I hold the view that this exposed group is strong enough to be taken serious and that they are capable of defending themselves in a debate.
Its important to stress that the Swedish media for a long time has avoided this kind of debate, and its a widely held view in Sweden that the Danes are xenophofic and racist because of its tighter immigration policy. Many swedes think that the publication of the Mohammed cartoons in Jyllands-Posten proved this point. None of the big Swedish newspapers published Jyllands-Postens cartoons back in 2006. Jyllands-Posten and other Danish newspapers have published Vilks drawings of the prophet. It caused no reaction whatsoever.
http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/flemmingrose/2007/08/22/cartoon_crisis_in_sweden.php
Awesome
Flemming Rose is one of the leading figure of the fight against global jihad.
I put his name among the “heroes of our times” :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7mCAfoKOLk
He forgot to glue on extra hair making the eyebrows meet in the middle. LOL!
Outrage?
Imagine a pig cartoon..southbound pig with him as a star at the northend
I wonder how long it’s going to be until we see rage boy shouting “death to America?” LOL
I’m missing something-if Islam is a religion, how can one be a “secular Muslim”? Of course, if it’s a political system, then that’s different. I suspect it’s the latter.
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