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Working to preserve a historic dialect (Texas German)
Star-Telegram ^ | 8-26-07 | R.A. Dyer

Posted on 08/26/2007 2:04:22 PM PDT by Dysart

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To: Dysart

The Pennsylvania German language is alive and well, I can report. The Amish girls at the farmer’s market I go to every Friday talk to each other exclusively in German.


81 posted on 08/26/2007 5:22:11 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: B-Chan

Mine, too! Ernest Tubb, the Texas Troubadour, was my fave. Mickey Gilley did a good one, too.


82 posted on 08/26/2007 5:29:04 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: tanuki
Munster, TX

About 20 miles rom me....great food!

83 posted on 08/26/2007 5:34:58 PM PDT by chesty_puller (70-73 USMC VietNam 75-79 US Army Wash DC....VietNam was safer.)
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To: Dysart

Many of the German immigrants to Texas were recruited by noble land developers like Prince Solms with leaflets describing the great potential for them in a new free land.

A lot of them left Germany during the 1840s as a reaction to the militarization of the Prussians. Some of the liberal Germans that immigrated were so highly cultured that among the first organizations they started in those frontier villages were string quartets and mannerchoirs.

By 1860, the largest ethnic population in Texas was of German extraction, most of it centered in San Antonio and the Hill Country northwest. One town, Fredericksburg, made a treaty with the Comanches who controlled that area of the state that was never broken.

In the 60s I used to be approached on the streets of some of the old German towns like New Braunfels and Fredericksburg by older residents who would speank to me in German because my appearance made them think I was of local German extraction.

Wonderful festivals full of ‘gemutlichkeit’ in those old German towns.


84 posted on 08/26/2007 5:40:57 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: Rte66

Thanks so much, I’ll try it.


85 posted on 08/26/2007 5:42:51 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Proud_texan

My mother’s family traces its history to the Prince Solms colony (mid 1800s) - they are Bavarian.


86 posted on 08/26/2007 5:46:47 PM PDT by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
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To: Dysart

It’s a country beer joint, I sure was fooled for many years.


87 posted on 08/26/2007 5:49:03 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: GravityFree; Christopher Lincoln; wildbill; RobbyS

Y’all are a fountain of historical enlightenment. Vielen Dank.


88 posted on 08/26/2007 5:54:13 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: chesty_puller

Thanks for the tip. Thanks for your service. And thanks for that great tagline!


89 posted on 08/26/2007 5:55:12 PM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: Dysart

Gar nichts.


90 posted on 08/26/2007 6:16:04 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Ditter
YW - they're very good. Besides plain, also good with sauerbrauten. Remember they're supposed to be skinny and kinda nobby - they don't really need baking powder to make them bigger, I don't think - but to each his own.


91 posted on 08/26/2007 6:23:38 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Dysart

However, it is imperative that you leave your mark - be sure to sign or carve your name onto or into something for posterity, a wooden beam or an outside wall. *I’m there* - several times, lol.


92 posted on 08/26/2007 6:27:16 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66
Yes, I find that well-placed graffiti always lends an aura of nobility to a monument.
93 posted on 08/26/2007 6:35:49 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

Here’s something else kind of unique about Fredericksburg and the Hill Country’s German population - I posted about Sunday houses when we had some threads on “Katrina cottages”:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735172/posts?page=15#15


94 posted on 08/26/2007 6:49:57 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: jdub

Yes, you are correct, though I have found out that several of my “cousins” now live south of the boarder in mexico, poor suckers


95 posted on 08/26/2007 6:50:54 PM PDT by Aruchu (There is no I in team, but there is a M and an E.)
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To: Dysart

That’s the great thing about Texas, you can get a taste of Germany in Fredericksburg, a taste of Czech culture at WestFest, and go to Panna Maria, the first permanent Polish settlement in the United States.


96 posted on 08/26/2007 6:54:17 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: RobbyS

Funny you should mention that, but on my 3 or 4 greats grandfather Etienne, the 1st to come to the US on his country of origin it say Empire of the Germans.


97 posted on 08/26/2007 6:57:10 PM PDT by Aruchu (There is no I in team, but there is a M and an E.)
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To: dfwgator
Dang right-"It's a Whole 'Nother Country" isn't just a bumper sticker.

I don't care what John Edwards says.

98 posted on 08/26/2007 7:00:48 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I attended the same school as my mother did. It was a three room country school. However when she was attending it was taught in German and Spanish Hence the need for three rooms.

When my brothers attended it was taught in English and Spanish. By the time I attended it was only English. It was thought natural for children to learn in their native languages in pre-WWII Texas.

I later spoke with a Spanish descent friend. His comment was, That it was very hard for rural Spanish speakers to learn English in that day. Most of the Germans spoke all three languages,. They conducted business with the Hispanics in Spanish. I know my father was highly regarded for his ability to speak Spanish.

I, myself, speak German very well and would often do the translating for my Army unit in Germany. One of the few extra duty jobs I actually relished.

Oh! and FWIW, My family is listed in the 1880 census as being here since 1873. For those who wonder about loyalties due to our being capable of speaking another language. We have been involved on the U.S side in every war since arriving.


99 posted on 08/26/2007 7:04:02 PM PDT by rock58seg (Change Homeland Security to U. S. Security. It's time they remember what country to protect.)
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To: Dysart
Its held in New Braunsfel in early November. It looks like site was knocked off-line.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

100 posted on 08/26/2007 7:06:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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