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CIA missed chances to thwart al-Qaida
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 8-21-07 | Katherine Schrader

Posted on 08/21/2007 1:27:11 PM PDT by STARWISE

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To: STARWISE

http://www.allanfavish.com/the_9_11_commission_report.htm


41 posted on 08/21/2007 2:30:43 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: STARWISE

nor the “wall builder” Jamie Gorrelic.


42 posted on 08/21/2007 2:33:45 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: STARWISE

Here is a link to the full 19 page report by the cia ig. Its quite an interesting read. There are some redactions (seemingly when referring to specific individuals), but its pretty scathing. Check out the dates in the document..and what was done in 01 versus what was (not) done prior to President Bush. Not a whole lot of specifics, but what is there is quite revealing, imho.

https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/Executive%20Summary_OIG%20Report.pdf


43 posted on 08/21/2007 2:41:22 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: Laverne

Thanks !!


44 posted on 08/21/2007 2:47:53 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: TexKat

And Billery and George both are politicians.


Actually... He`s not a politician... He is from a rich family... and was raised most of his life in west Texas.... but he is a `country boy`... He speaks his mind, which kills him in politics.. he IS closer to a redneck than me, POLO shirts and dockers, but he still tries to do the best he can to what he actaully has control of. I myself am a patriot of my country and freedom... 4 years USAF, 3 years Army, and 3 years as a deputy sheriff of Texas.. and you cop haters out there can kiss my butt. I never had a big head with the badge.. I only enforced the law; and if juvenile had alcohol (with neighbor complaints of noise).. I would drive there to their house and warn them that if they didn`t lower their noise, I would be back asking for IDs... In my mind, I didn`t want to make a double standard, since I also had done the same thing when I was in high school. Let the kids have fun, as long as they weren`t destructive to others (and no drugs were involved... I still, to this day, HATE any type of drugs.... don`t give me the alcohol is a drug crap either... that`s an excuse.. and alcohol is harmful, but not an illegal drug).

OBL sucking air?! Who cares?! as long as he is not sucking from USAmericans! (America is actually 3 continents...you can figure it out. USA is 1 country...), although, as liberal as it is, I would defend Canada too...

Obliterate the b@stard.. do whatever to make the best we, as a COUNTRY can do to make us/you happy.... Just don`t phuk with our freedom.

Sorry, not all of this is directed at you... but I hope that some others can try to understand what freedom is.

Again, my apologies.. I am not a good debater..

OH... BTW.... 1 of the WORST insults I hear coming from an outsider (Euro).. Yankee!!!! I am NOT a freakin`yankee! I am from the south. NO offense meant toward the NEasterners.. but there is a BIG difference! Freakin` Euros have NO idea about the insult... It`s like me calling an Irishman a Brit.

anyway, I am tired (7am here, with no sleep), sorry for any offenses... :D
MJ


45 posted on 08/21/2007 2:57:34 PM PDT by MrJapan
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I agree with you. However, if we can get just a bit of the energy that politically aware people have had recently for other issues, maybe we can assist the Congressional leaders to drive their poll numbers even lower.

Gallup poll today: 18% favorable rating.


46 posted on 08/21/2007 3:01:46 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: STARWISE
The CIA's top leaders failed to use their available powers, never
developed a comprehensive plan to stop al-Qaida and missed crucial
opportunities to thwart two hijackers in the run-up to Sept. 11,
the agency's own watchdog concluded in a bruising report released Tuesday.


This conclusion sounds pretty similar to that of Stephen Emerson,
as related on the "Money Talk" radio show with Bob Brinker this
last weekend.

Emerson said that the managers at the CIA simply sat back and
were too slow (cowardly? ossified?) to utilize the assets at their
behest.

(I'm not knocking the "true believers" at the CIA; I'm sure there
are good folks on the front lines of the 'intelligence war' that
deserve much more recognition, love of their fellow citizens and
retirement pay than they'll ever see.)
47 posted on 08/21/2007 3:07:33 PM PDT by VOA
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To: MrJapan

You might appreciate this little sidenote:

I once asked someone from England if he ws British, and was told (proving one stereotype) “I’m English, actually.” He didn’t want to be thrown in the mix with those other lesser members of the UK!


48 posted on 08/21/2007 3:08:30 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: Laverne; All
What the heck is this ... why on earth couldn't they get this info??????? What/ who was stopping them from getting that ?? This is outrageous.

"If IC Officers had been able to review and analyze the full range of information available before 11 September 2001, they could have developed a more informed context in which to assess the threat reporting of the spring and summer that year."

49 posted on 08/21/2007 3:11:13 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

I have yet to hear one rational reason why George Tenent should not have been fired and then held accountable for the failures of the CIA, under his watch, that led to both 9/11 and the ‘no’ MWD’s fiasco.


50 posted on 08/21/2007 3:27:50 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: MrJapan
and you cop haters out there can kiss my butt.

It amazes me how often that type shows up, even here.

51 posted on 08/21/2007 3:31:52 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: STARWISE

There is one single failure which the CIA could be held accountable for, and which resulted in the 9/11 failure - that is the general failure of the CIA leadership to totally comprehend the very nature and problems of accurate national security intelligence and to pro-actively design dynamic (always updating) programs for all three components - collection, analysis and assessment, with a key to always questioning - “what are we not looking at and why”; “what views and assumptions that stand in opposition to our own biases (the biases of our analysts) are we refusing to explore”; “do we (our analysts) continue to rely on ‘trusted’ sources (intelligence services of ‘allies’) too much and even against histories that question that reliability (there is a cozy relationship between Langley and a former top, retired U.S CIA executive now working and living in Saudi Arabia, helping them run their intelligence service).

Tenet ran the CIA the way Condi runs the State Department; which is not to run the department but simply to manage its primary official voice (politically spin what is being done whether or not WHAT is being done is achieving or even capable of achieving what the publicly stated goals are) while the permanent government in the department does what it wants to.


52 posted on 08/21/2007 4:23:58 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: STARWISE

Check out the last part of the article:

“Sadly, the CIA’s 9/11 accountability review serves as a sobering reminder that the Bush Administration policies for the past six years have failed to capture or kill Osama bin Laden,” the West Virginia Democrat said. “Nor have the administration’s policies deprived Osama bin Laden and other senior al-Qaida leaders of the safe haven they need to plot against the United States.”

Of course the RATs would find a way to point the finger at Bush.


53 posted on 08/21/2007 5:00:42 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: NonValueAdded

“And after all that attention that Bill Clinton gave his CIA chief ... why, he met with him what, at least twice during his 8 years in office?”

Exactly! That was my very first thought.


54 posted on 08/21/2007 5:04:34 PM PDT by BerryDingle
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To: FARS; milford421; Calpernia; DAVEY CROCKETT; CarolinaGOP; Founding Father

Ping.


55 posted on 08/21/2007 5:05:59 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( God loaned us many of the Brave people, those who keep us free and safe and for balance liberals..)
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To: RWB Patriot; SE Mom

I missed that .. thanks for pointing it out. What a snarky, partisan load of poop for a “journalist” to put in print. Jeeze .........


56 posted on 08/21/2007 5:26:50 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: vladimir998

yet tonites world news implied that Bush was involved. They showed a clip of Bush giving Tennet a medal of honor.


57 posted on 08/21/2007 5:29:06 PM PDT by jcmfreedom
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To: STARWISE

you’d think that a capable pubbie

would be able to drive this home to hillary.


58 posted on 08/21/2007 5:30:20 PM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs +2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I heard on talk radio that the CIA leaks information conveniently. It’s very sympathetic to liberals. Presidents have to tread lightly around the CIA because damaging information can be leaked about them (true or not). Look at the recent cases involving probes of the white house and staff...all liberal led cases.


59 posted on 08/21/2007 5:33:09 PM PDT by jcmfreedom
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To: 50sDad
This was the CIA under what president again?

It was the CIA. The rest does not matter. This is what happens whenever you create an unaccountable secret society of ivy leaguers accountable to no one.

60 posted on 08/21/2007 5:37:42 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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