Fair Tax, Foul Politics [NRO on FairTax]

Fair Tax, Foul Politics ^ | August 16, 2007 | NRO Editors

[Bigun]

There is no such thing as a nice happy voluntary tax. At least the income tax doesn't try to fool people into thinking it is nice. It is in your face, you get the big tax bill and there will be incentive to lower it.

If you honestly believe that a tax that average citizens can pay without any interaction with the government is is the same as the communist inspired, class warfare inducing, monstrosity we suffer today then we are so far apart that there is no point in further exchange between us.

Have a nice life and "may your chains rest lightly".

[Bigun]

Nearl 8 years later and the SQLs are still defending the communist inspired, class warfare inducing monstrosity we currently suffer. The "progressive" income tax.

Why do you suppose that is?

[xcamel]

Better than your regressive solution....

[RobFromGa]

The FairTax bill is THE most throughly researched piece of legislation ever introduced in congress

Complete bunk. A bunch of amateurs completely exposed the core mantra of "100% paychecks, prices stay the same" with zero funding and using only common sense. Buying "research" that gives you only the answers you want to hear is not real research.

[Bigun]

Nothing, I repeat NOTHING, regressive about the Fairtax. In fact, it is the ONLY proposal anywhere that COMPLETELY untaxes the poor!

Sorry but you need to try again unknown camel. That dog won't hunt.

[xcamel]

The FairTax bill is THE most throughly rehearsed, scripted, convoluted, deceptive, and disingenuous piece of legislation ever introduced in congress,

There, fixed it.

[RobFromGa]

8 years later, and after being exposed as a fraudulent plan, the FairTaxers are still suckering in new converts with misrepresentations of what the rate is, what it would need to be, and how little they know about the potential effects of this radical change.

Hatred of the IRS is not enough to get rational people to support the plan. There are an infinite number of possible plans that all include getting rid of the IRS.

Most of them, including the FairTax, are worse than what they replace.

[Bigun]

I am VERY happy to report that our research is available online righ here for everyone to read and evaluate for themselves rather than have the likes of you telling them what it says.

BTW: The Fairtax movement is growing daily! You are WAY behind! Better get busy!

[Bigun]

Keep talking Rob! You win a lot of support when you defend the communist inspired, class warfare inducing, SLAVE tax we currently suffer in this country!

At the very least, Fairtaxers offer a POSITIVE alternative to that!

[Turbopilot]

I was talking about the Tax Reform Act of 1986, passed just less than 21 years ago. It was supposed to drastically cut rates and simplify the tax codes by eliminating all the various deductions and loopholes that previously existed, and "flattening" marginal tax rates into just a few brackets over a small range.

Didn't exactly cut down on the IRS, did it?

[xcamel]

BTW: The Fairtax movement is growing daily! You are WAY behind! Better get busy!

I think they say the same thing about cancer.

[xcamel]

Generally, the logic behind the fairtax is outlawing all birdfeeders to prevent seagulls from crapping on your car.

[Your Nightmare]

Is all this cut and paste nonsense some kind of tribute to Ancient Geezer?

[Your Nightmare]

All this talk by the FairTaxers and they are ignoring the main point of this article - that the FairTax is a political nonstarter.

[RobFromGa]

I’m pointing out the fallacies of the FairTax. The FairTax is unworkable and built on misrepresentation. There isn’t a good taxation strategy for a government that is as bloated as ours. We need to address the spending side of the equation and that is where the grass-roots reform efforts should be aiming their guns.

Not in finding an alternative method to feed the beast, especially one that will be more destructive than what we have now.

[Turbopilot]

Is that supposed to be a coherent metaphor? I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about or what point you meant to make. Birdfeeders? Seagulls??

[Bigun]

No! It is an attempt to educate YOU as to the proper methods of tax collection for a FREE society.

[RobFromGa]

the FairTax is a political nonstarter.

Boortz has been able to build a decent sized cult who believe his spin on things related to the FairTax. It will never be able to withstand serious scrutiny as anyone who has looked at it with an unbiased eye knows.

And the special deals that would have to be cut to get this monstrosity passed would make it even worse.

[RobFromGa]

you are tilting at windmills- the problem is that we are spending too much. And we have allowed almost half of the population to be exempt from most taxation while demonizing the productive lucky “rich” people. And the FairTax doesn’t change that.

[RobFromGa]

All the people you are quoting couldn’t imagine that the Federal Government would get into the business of providing income for life and free health care for life for people once they reach 65, when the life expectancy for such people is over 80 at present.

Nor could they imagine all the vote-buying pork-barrel spending that is done, or the levels and levels of agencies and bureaucracies that we have allowed to be built up.