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Don’t Let the Smoking Police In (And Don't Lick Barbie)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_081507/content/01125111.guest.html.guest.html ^ | August 15, 2007 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/16/2007 3:00:02 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

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To: Hunble

That’s why they have huge parking lots and elevators in big gyms.


101 posted on 08/17/2007 12:51:53 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Cementjungle

Yes, but you don’t see how the hysteria about DUI made driveway busts possible.

It doesn’t matter that you may disagree now, the cops can bust you in your car on your property.


102 posted on 08/17/2007 12:52:43 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Hunble

The book was written as outrageous fiction; even though it now seems prophetic.


103 posted on 08/17/2007 12:53:24 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Cementjungle

Driving drunk is a lot harder than most people think, otherwise we’d never know anyone was doing it.


104 posted on 08/17/2007 12:54:46 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: swarthyguy
Essentially, we Americans seem to have given up on the very principles of our founding. Don’t tread on me and we’ll leave each other alone.

At least you and Old Professor GET IT!

' Thanks, I was wondering if there were any Freepers that understood the definiton of Freedom anymore.

105 posted on 08/17/2007 12:55:40 PM PDT by Hunble (Islam is God's punishment!)
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To: Hunble

That’s what happens when you let just anyone in...


106 posted on 08/17/2007 12:57:17 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

I was recognizing the words, but could not remember the author. Who was the author?


107 posted on 08/17/2007 12:57:33 PM PDT by Hunble (Islam is God's punishment!)
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To: Hunble

Me.


108 posted on 08/17/2007 12:57:57 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: swarthyguy
It doesn’t matter that you may disagree now, the cops can bust you in your car on your property.

Well, I agree that they have no right to do that. Again, I would argue that they only have a reason to bust you if you're on our public roads drunk. I personally see a big distinction between what we do in private vs. what we do in public (at least on public roads). I don't believe those two situations are inseperable.

109 posted on 08/17/2007 12:57:58 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Old Professer
"Yet grow they must and through the generations the jealousy grew apace until now we have become so sophisticated that we feel the need not only to revert to the classic forced reduction of our numbers but invent ways to brag about how good it is and how much better off those once-crowded people are now that they each have their own little 3X6 garden plot for eternity"

You were the author?

110 posted on 08/17/2007 1:00:20 PM PDT by Hunble (Islam is God's punishment!)
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To: mbraynard
Here’s a start for you.

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Do you really want me to keep going?
I will if you really want the sources.

111 posted on 08/17/2007 1:00:27 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Cementjungle

As I said, you can say that now, but the principle has been established.

What if the drunk driver parked in a stationary car in HIS driveway decides to leave? Can’t have that, so in the interest of “public safety”, since he might leave, we should bust him.

Statists never look into the future or see how potential restrictions now can bite them in the butt later.


112 posted on 08/17/2007 1:01:07 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Hunble

I wrote it just then, it is not a quote from someone you might know; it is a conclusion drawn from a cursory look at this two-legged ant farm we call home.


113 posted on 08/17/2007 1:01:25 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Cementjungle
they only have a reason to bust you if you're on our public roads drunk.

Once again, please show us Freepers the exact quotation in the Federal or State Constitutions that enumerated that power to the government.

Curious minds would like to know....

114 posted on 08/17/2007 1:02:53 PM PDT by Hunble (Islam is God's punishment!)
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To: Old Professer
That sounded like Harlan Ellison or one of the other great science fiction authors.

I am honored to bow before you!

Yes, it is a sad but very real aspect of human nature to force and control others to follow your own personal desires.

115 posted on 08/17/2007 1:07:49 PM PDT by Hunble (Islam is God's punishment!)
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To: swarthyguy
What if the drunk driver parked in a stationary car in HIS driveway decides to leave? Can’t have that, so in the interest of “public safety”, since he might leave, we should bust him.

Statists never look into the future or see how potential restrictions now can bite them in the butt later.

Well, again, I agree that what we do in private SHOULD BE NO ONE'S BUSINESS BUT OUR OWN. I don't know how to fix that, but I don't think that allowing people to drive drunk on public roads is the answer. Instead, I think any local government (police, D.A.) should be voted out of office if they can't make the distinction between "in private" and "on public roads". Each community hires it's own police department to enforce the rules the way the community wants them to be enforced.

116 posted on 08/17/2007 1:08:02 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Hunble

You’re operating from a rather quaint, classically liberal mindset.

Today’s improved super duper safety AMERICAN mindset is, any powers not specifically prohibited are the within the bailiwick of government to improve our lives and make us safe(r).


117 posted on 08/17/2007 1:09:21 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Cementjungle
This thread is about smoking, but the same argumet is valid:

The government was never granted the power to regulate private lives!

118 posted on 08/17/2007 1:14:47 PM PDT by Hunble (Islam is God's punishment!)
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To: Hunble
Once again, please show us Freepers the exact quotation in the Federal or State Constitutions that enumerated that power to the government.

There's nothing in the Constitution that says that commercial airline pilots can't do shots of Jack Daniels and snort coke while flying an airliner, and yet we have developed laws to try and prevent/stop things like that.

The constitution doesn't bar local or state governments from making their own laws as they see fit. DUI laws are all STATE LAWS and not FEDERAL. Why can't you grasp that distinction?

119 posted on 08/17/2007 1:15:52 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

I have no doubt of your sincerity on this, but once the power has been ceded, it’s virtually impossible, despite elections and referendums to override goobermint diktats.

For instance, in this state, we had a referendum to make seatbelt wearing a wholly voluntary activity without any potential ramifications.

The Legislature, in it’s infinite wisdom and disdain for the voters, enacted a law making it an offense to not have your seatbelt on in the event of an accident, thereby allowing both the state and insurance companies to really work you over in fees etc.

We voted to get rid of an income surtax nearly two decades old; despite a string of 4 Republican governors, they made no move to get rid of it.

A small symbolic step, really, but demonstrates the virtual contempt that elected officials hold for the citizens.


120 posted on 08/17/2007 1:15:53 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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