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Significant noise activity heard in mine
KTVX.com ^ | 08/15/2007 | KTVX

Posted on 08/15/2007 6:17:10 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

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To: Sleeping Freeper

Why is it taking so damn long to get this done? Where is the Army Corps of Engineers? You know if some Mexican migrants got stuck in a smuggling tunnel, that Bush would bring the entire Federales to bear to get them out.


21 posted on 08/15/2007 7:19:40 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I heard about that and I am praying. God bless those families.


22 posted on 08/15/2007 7:21:57 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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CNN just had a pretty good live interview with Robert Murray (the mine owner). It was on Anderson Cooper’s show. Ithink it repeats after midnight. (I normally watch FOX, but they don’t seem interested in the story.)


23 posted on 08/15/2007 7:28:39 PM PDT by Lawdoc (My dad married my aunt, so now my cousins are my brothers. Go figure.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Surely there must be some technology.....

Yeah, there probably is - but it would cost money.

My understanding is that this mine owner had been cited for over 300 violations of safety codes in the last couple of inspections, and had made little to no effort to fix the problems (I have no idea if the safety problems in the citations is related in any way to the current emergency). But obviously, the owner isn't too concerned with safety or spending money on some sort of communication technology for such an emergency...

24 posted on 08/15/2007 7:31:31 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I’ve thought about this and have concluded its just very hard to communicate underground.

In cave-ins wires get severed. Radio doesn’t work well under ground, light beacons don’t penetrate rock.

On the surface, under water, or in space there are lots of options. Not so easy down below.


25 posted on 08/15/2007 7:53:18 PM PDT by festus (I'm a fRedneck and proud of it.)
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To: TheBattman
Be great if you had a clue on dealing with MSHA and their nit picky-ness. Even MSHA said the citations at this mine were less than average for US underground coal mines. Radio communications get sucked up by the mountain and the “carbon” coal, usually they have a wire that runs close by that will carry radio, but that likely broke with the quakes.

Most of the negative stuff you hear is from union, this is a non-union mine. Noticed that FNC seems to be having some peeing match with mine Owner, from all the “Fox ladies” that don’t have a clue that FNC has covering this story.

26 posted on 08/15/2007 7:57:58 PM PDT by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
"Could someone please explain to me why there is no communication method for communicating with the men without drilling a hole? Surely there must be some technology....."

Yes....why don't they have GPS systems on them when they enter these caves???

27 posted on 08/15/2007 9:16:45 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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Becuase GPs is line of sight and under cover (much less hundreds of feet of rock) you’d not get a signal.

Communication is impossible because you’d need an ultra-low frequency transmitter of which it would be too difficult to equip miners with to make it worthwhile. Tapping is the most feasible way.


28 posted on 08/15/2007 9:24:23 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

bump to check back later


29 posted on 08/15/2007 9:28:00 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: dusttoyou; TheBattman

One of the “violations” was not emptying trash cans at the end of a shift. If I wasn’t so tired and lazy tonight I could Google up the entire list.


30 posted on 08/15/2007 10:24:53 PM PDT by barker ( A smile is a curved line that sets things straight.)
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To: Lawdoc
(I normally watch FOX, but they don’t seem interested in the story.)

Son told me there was breaking news on the miners on CNN. Owner was being very careful with what he said. Fox was rerunning O'Reilly. Fox is really, really bad when it comes to breaking news.

31 posted on 08/15/2007 10:31:39 PM PDT by barker ( A smile is a curved line that sets things straight.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Actually there is undergound radio

http://radiolocation.tripod.com/Transverter/Transverter.html

and see
http://www.qsl.net/kq6xa/ Hams do it all the time.....


32 posted on 08/15/2007 11:06:59 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: Bogey78O

Oh. Thanks much for the response.


33 posted on 08/16/2007 4:51:25 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Surely there must be some technology.....

i know... i keep thinking the same thing... there's got to be someone who could come up with something that would work...

34 posted on 08/16/2007 4:54:33 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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