Posted on 08/13/2007 4:27:30 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey
I should mention, that I like Cingular, and Bell South and AT&T and don’t like Sprint/Nextel but I’m talking about what is fair to NASCAR and what will keep NASCAR safe.
Frankly, as retaliation, I would love to see Ryan Newman sport a Sextel Sucks logo in one of the next races.
“Gee, I like NASCAR just for the racing. Personally, I pay no attention to the advertising.”
Without the advertising, there can be no racing.
Just more proof that NASCAR is no longer about racing. It has become The Parade of Sponsors’ Logos.
I bet the depositions are more exciting than the races.
Do you think the judge called a recess every time someone dropped a pen?
Yes...but Perrier and Pepsi are different products.
Cingular and AT&T are both wireless carriers.
If I recall correctly, NASCAR forced Winston to give up its sponsorship of the Cup, correct, because of the “connotation” of having a cigarette sponsor NASCAR? Does anyone know how much Winston paid NASCAR a year?
Maybe, just maybe, that's what the judge did.
Cingular was specifically grandfathered. It was an exception to the exclusivity arrangement that NEXTEL negotiated with NASCAR. As I understand it Cingular was not even allowed to drop back to a secondary-sponsorship. Once they gave up on the 31-Car they were out. That shows you how tightly NEXTEL negotiated the exclusivity arrangement. And you can bet NASCAR was paid a premium for it as well.
“Why is that. NASCAR needs to be able to sell exclusive sponsorships. If another company can buy out a sponsor and force NASCAR to violate their own exclusive sponsorship rules then NASCAR sponsorships will be worth a lot less money and NASCAR will suffer.”
Cingular and Alltell were team sponsors before Nextel arrived. The teams they sponsor depend on their money, $15 to $20 million, a year to cover costs. NASCAR wants to kick Alltell and Cingular out of the sport. NASCAR will not lift a finger to replace their money for those affected teams.
>>They paid for cup sponsorship, not driver sponsorship. Drivers and Owners had no say in the cup sponsorship agreement.
Frankly, as retaliation, I would love to see Ryan Newman sport a Sextel Sucks logo in one of the next races.<<
I don’t know how that works — there is TV revenue and Cup sponsorship revenue. I would guess teams agree to certain terms in order to participate.
>>Cingular and Alltell were team sponsors before Nextel arrived. The teams they sponsor depend on their money, $15 to $20 million, a year to cover costs. NASCAR wants to kick Alltell and Cingular out of the sport. NASCAR will not lift a finger to replace their money for those affected teams.<<
That’s a reasonable point - when they change the cup sponsor it would cost certain teams money.
i guess that’s why they grandfathered Cingular and Alltell.
But its really ATT’s responsibility to do due diligence before they bought Cingular’s parent - they should not have counted on the NASCAR relationship because it was only grandfathered for Cingular.
Cingular is Latin for “This sucks as much as Celluar One.”
Not true. Cingular was ONLY a wireless carrier. In addition to wireless, AT&T offers long distance and local telephone services, DSL and other Internet services, etc.
Thanks for the FYI
Big money is at play and lawyers are not yet done.
It will be interesting to see how far up the court system this issue continues, if at all.
Even if AT&T does not prevail, RCR will undoubtedly find another sponsor for the 31 car. Jeff Burton is a stand up driver that should draw the attention of many corporations.
JMHO
Ah...good point. They should have kept “X” guy on the car. Simply can’t figure out why NASCAR dumped Winston - like what? NASCAR fans shouldn’t smoke and a tobacco company is not a good cup sponsor?
I hope Jeff gets a good sponsor for the 31 ride to replace Cingular/ATT. He’s one cool dude.
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