New Scandal Erupts over NOAA Climate Data

Daily Tech ^ | August 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Michael Asher

[theBuckwheat]

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They build an airport in the wide open space outside a city and a weather station is invariably placed at the airport.
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Or they locate the measurement equipment housing on the grass in the corner of where two large black asphalt tarmac ramp areas come together, so when the wind is from the west through the south the reading is not compromised, but when it is from any other direction (and especially from the NE through the SE), the wind passes over hundreds of yards of tarmac before it hits the gages.

This was the case at the Columbia, Missouri Regional Airport (COU) until just a few years ago when the station was moved a few hundred yards to the south. So, for about 20 years we had really bad readings or not so bad readings from this station depending on the wind.

A concerted effort must now be made to peer-review the location history of each station and to only use data from stations that are determined to be accurate. All other data must be disregarded.

[Publius6961]

Don’t you love paying the government to lie to you? For the life of me, I can’t figure why there aren’t a lot more libertarians.

Let's not dump a smelly red herring into this discussion. This type of arrogance should arouse outrage from ordinary Amrericans of all political bents.

I would love to follow up on this. Specifically:
What were the "privacy" concerns cited?
Who made the decision to remove the data from public access?
Who's in charge there? Who does He/She work for?

I have heard of these absurd "weather" stations for years (as I recall, one was never even installed, but the "volunteer" simply guessed the data and forwarded it, which was then massaged to ten decimal places.)

In short, Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[theFIRMbss]

>For the life of me, I can’t figure why there aren’t a lot more libertarians

	"First of all, someone keeps dropping houses on us. But that won't matter-- My flying monkeys will storm the Emerald City and then we'll rule Oz!"

[gcruse]

I wrote ‘libertarian’, not ‘Libertarian.” I believe fed govt should defend the country and otherwise leave us alone. If that defense is proactive, so be it. As for the horror of letting people get high, if that’s the only reason you can think of that justifies concentrating power into a national government, you have to wonder how the Republic survived until 1930.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

You couldn't make this up! What a boondoggle!

The scary truth behind all Leftist endeavors is that they are so amateur. Only the corrupted media and educational establishments give them any life at all (that along with rampant vote fraud).

[gcruse]

LOL

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Neptune is warming up as well as the earth....

Jeeez, it's worse than we thought!

I've always thought it interesting hoe the GW crowd got away with ignoring THE SUN! in all of their hyperventilated expose's.

[tarheelswamprat]

Neptune is warming up as well as the earth....

Jeeez, it's worse than we thought!

But, it's not critical till Uranus starts to burn...

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

At least that will get rid of those pesky Klingons.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Did you have the time to listen to the audio stream I linked at post #12....it is quite good,.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks....

[Publius6961]

The warmest year on record is now 1934. 1998 (long trumpeted by the media as record-breaking) moves to second place. 1921 takes third. In fact, 5 of the 10 warmest years on record now all occur before World War II. Anthony Watts has put the new data in chart form, along with a more detailed summary of the events.

As usually happens with the secondary moonbats who quote primary sources forever, they will never correct the erroneous data, and it will live forever for the ignorant and the militant, just as the "second-hand smoke" debate demonstrated.

No, Dorothy, 1998 was not the hottest year of record.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Looking thru the commentary on Anthony Watts site,...someone pointed to this as Propaganda....Wi9kipedia no less:

Instrumental temperature record
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Wikipedia now has a problem....

[Publius6961]

Wikipedia now has a problem....

It would appear that way...

What's new?

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[Nevadan]

re: These guys ought to be hauled up on the Hill.

That’s not likely to happen. Congress is too busy listening to the expert testimony of actors such as Rob Lowe who have seen algore’s movie and consequently are now authorities on the subject of global warming. See Reuter’s photo & blurb on webpage with Debra Saunder’s column today: http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/DebraJSaunders/2007/08/11/paralyzing_fog_of_uncertainty_on_climate

[prisoner6]

I can’t figure why there aren’t a lot more libertarians

Read my experience at a RP event on another thread. I like RP, he grew up near me. but his stand on Iraq and the WOT turn me off. So too the liberetarian stand on drugs.

prisoner6

[cookcounty]

I’m beginning to think “scientists” are morons.

[sirchtruth]

For the life of me, I can’t figure why there aren’t a lot more libertarians.

Hopefully it's because people realize the political philidophy Libert. hold is totally irresponsible.

[Always Right]

The funny thing is the media complains that the global warming skeptics get too much publicity. Let’s forget that 99.99% of articles in the MSM are rabidly pro-global warming and never admit there is any doubt in the theory. These lying SOB’s have no shame on the lies they tell. These lying SOB’s really piss me off.