The Bunker (Giuliani's Emergency Command Center at WTC)

CBS News ^ | 8/11/07 | Kevin Drum

[wagglebee]

And I wonder which mud-slinging Republican opponent will finally get desperate enough to craft a Willie Horton style attack ad darkly allowing the obvious innuendo here to flit across conservative television screens?

It's not "mud-slinging" to point out the truth.

[frogjerk]

So far the Christian right has at least semi-forgiven Giuliani for his stands on abortion and gay rights. And the philandering and the messy divorce don't seem to have hurt him all that much either.

I don't think so and for good reason.

But let's keep to the issues rather than the 9/11 revisionist history the leftist are trying to press upon us. The Village Voice? Pleazzzzze!

[LdSentinal]

The truth is that Rudy was one of many heroes on 9/11.

And the truth is that Kevin Drum and The Village Voice were very happy on 9/11.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Very true. And he had a number of friends killed that day, and didn’t really have any chance to grieve, since he had to be in charge and on camera constantly.

[Calvin Locke]

Still, tossing aside the apparent abuse of an taxpayer funded EM shelter as a love shack, failing to put the shelter in a nondescript location is quite damning.

A basic shelter in the city hall area hardwired to the proposed Brooklyn location would have made more sense, if Giuliani was worried about not making it to Brooklyn.

[LdSentinal]

If the bridges are down, there would be no access to Manhattan to from Brooklyn except via the Battery tunnel.

[ejonesie22]

Damn, saw the term “The Bunker”, thought it was a Paul thread

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

Was it the fuel kept in this building because of the bunker that caused 7 WTC to come down many hours after the two Towers?

Was it really a good idea to have that much fuel in 7 WTC?

What did Silverstein mean when he said that 7 WTC was "pulled"?

Were there really Federal Reserve and/or U.S. Treasury gold bars in the area that were stolen?

[P-40]

So far the Christian right has at least semi-forgiven Giuliani for his stands on abortion and gay rights.

I must have missed that! :)

[P-40]

In order: yes, no, time to leave, no sure but I know someone tried.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>The truth is that Rudy was one of many heroes on 9/11.

I don't think Rooty Toot wa a hero. Neither do a whole lot of New Yorkers.

According to Deputy Fire Chief Jimmy Riches, who sepnt months searching for the remains of his firefighter son, Giuliani "is such a liar, because the only time he was down there was for photo ops with celebrities, with politicians, with diplomats,"

"On 9/11 all he did was run. He got that soot on him, and I don't think he's taken a shower since.", Riches said.

Riches remarks ring true.

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

Have you seen the tape of the tv news reporter on 9/11 reading from a script saying that 7 WTC had fallen while it was still standing in the background behind her?

They also I believe reported that 130 Liberty Street had fallen and stated it was going to fall when it didn't.

Did the way 7 WTC fell look like something that happened because of the fire?

Not saying that I endorse any theory here as to what exactly brought down 7 WTC.

What about the eyewitness accounts about what the ground floor lobby of 7 WTC looked like?

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

Have you seen the tape of the tv news reporter on 9/11 reading from a script saying that 7 WTC had fallen while it was still standing in the background behind her?

They also I believe reported that 130 Liberty Street had fallen and stated it was going to fall when it didn't.

Did the way 7 WTC fell look like something that happened because of the fire?

Not saying that I endorse any theory here as to what exactly brought down 7 WTC.

What about the eyewitness accounts about what the ground floor lobby of 7 WTC looked like?

[wideminded]

His suite was bulletproofed and he visited it often, even on weekends, bringing his girlfriend Judi Nathan there long before the relationship surfaced. He had his own elevator.

So that's where Kerik got the idea for his own "Ground Zero love nest".

[Vermont Lt]

You mean he’s an opportunistic policitian? Oh my God..? I am outraged. Shocked, I tell you, Shocked. //sarcasm off

[Reagan Man]

So, in your opinion all politicians are opportunists.

Guess you like being a cynic.

[LdSentinal]

NYC firefighters think so, which was they cheered Rudy and booed Hillary at the ‘Concert for NY.’

[wagglebee]

"On 9/11 all he did was run. He got that soot on him, and I don't think he's taken a shower since.", Riches said.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Rooty pull out the suit he wore on 9/11 in the same manner that Jesse Jackson has been known to do with Martin Luther King's bloody shirt.

[pandemoniumreigns]

"Did the way 7 WTC fell look like something that happened because of the fire?

Not saying that I endorse any theory here as to what exactly brought down 7 WTC

What about the eyewitness accounts about what the ground floor lobby of 7 WTC looked like?"

Try this

[Calvin Locke]

From reading the "memo" a few months ago, I believe there was a helipad or room for a makeshift pad. Or what about boat? Or a small hovercraft?

Again, it depends on what's going on. There is plenty of notice for most potential natural disasters, although NYC is probably overdo for a big earthquake. A terrorist attack? Who knows what disruption factor is intended?

Granted, an out of the way site could get smacked by a tornado, or a meteoroid.

As I stated, a nearby barebones with secure comms to a less targeted site would serve for immediate needs, except for the preening, primping, and prancing "I'm destined for higher office" media antics. (That's a generic swipe at all pols, not specifically Giuliani, and inspired by the "Brooklyn" memo itemizing a separate presser room as a benefit, iirc)

Giuliani, for whatever reason, made a bad decision putting it in a high value target, especially after it was attacked once.