Revised Temp Data Reduces Global Warming Fever

American Thinker ^ | August 09, 2007 | Marc Sheppard

[Rush4U]

Excellent post.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

fyi

[VOA]

bump

[az_gila]

“To really show a baseline you have to have readings of the entire atmosphere at multiple intervals, say.. every 100 ft or so.”

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Haven’t we been taken radiosonde (balloon) readings for a long time (from the 40’s?) twice a day from very specific locations. Since most of these are Air Force bases, they have remained pretty consistent.

http://weather.uwyo.edu/upperair/naconf.html

Anyone have any more details?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Related thread:

A little perspective on the U.S. and global temperature records

[Shanty Shaker]

It would be interesting to see that data modeled. Even more enlightening would to see the temperature data over the ocean be factored in.

Needless to say, it is very arrogant to presume that the current data set is complete and correct.

[mamelukesabre]

This data doesn’t jive with what my memories tell me. I remember a drought in the late eighties that gave us temps so high in the midwest, that things virtually shut down for the weekends in summertime. I remember temps of 108 to 110 in areas that normally rarely see 100. I remember fairly large metropolitan areas were like ghost towns. No one was moving around, no cars on the streets, no animals in sight, no kids playing.

I distinctly remember having to pick up a friend and drive him across town about 3pm on a saturday because the heat killed his car. I think the official temp that day was 109 WITHOUT a heat index. My car started having trouble and we made it by shutting down the A/C and turning on the heater, rolling down the windows, and not stopping for any red lights or stop signs. It was miserable. We were young and couldn't afford good cars.

We never saw another car moving around in the entire city. Good thing too since we ran every light we saw. I even remember saying something like “I bet I could drive the wrong way all the way down such and such a street”. Then I did it.

[blam]

Rush did a good job of explaining the lie of the 1998 story. My neighbor who normally does not know or follow such things gave me a good 'run-down' on the story because he heard it on Rush.

I didn't bother to tell him that I'd heard it too a couple hours earlier.

[From The Deer Stand]

WHAT??? No global warming??? How could Algore be wrong?

[lepton]

The conclusion is the same though!

Some conclusions are the same. Others are different.

BTW, keep in mind that this isn't the only poke at the GISS data. Much of the GISS "raw" data is data from the USHCN that has already been adjusted. Exactly how much is from that source we can't tell because they don't say.

This revelation of the GISS error came about from examination (still ongoing) of how frequently the USHCN networks sites differed from NOAA standards - especially given that this was a specially selected network advertised as "high quality", and which is used as a "control" for many studies.

For example, it appears that some of the sites sitting next to asphalt have been used as rural sites to demonstrate that urban sites aren't warming much faster than rural ones.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I caught some of the last hour...think Rush mentioned an article in a UK paper that was even claiming that Global Warming was going to have an effect on increased volcanic activity....guess I should see if that got posted....

[driftless2]

I can’t get past the fact that just less than one thousand years ago the earth experienced a very warm period when parts of Greenland were actually green. The little global warming optimum or some name like that. The temperatures were decidedly warmer then they are now. So if warmer temperatures are supposed to kill us and the earth, then why aren’t we and every other living thing all dead from that previous warm period? No one in Big Media will ask much less answer that question.

[Marine_Uncle]

Interesting to say the least.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Ben digging on this story...see this:

New Scandal Erupts over NOAA Climate Data

There needs to be some public hangings.....