Posted on 08/10/2007 12:37:58 PM PDT by wagglebee
Now it would be tempting for us to allow leftists killing their own, but again that assumes the hypothesis in my prior paragraph. As tempting as it is, my values cannot allow me to justify termination on the possibility the child will be indoctrinated as a leftist. There are many people who may have started believing that kind of thinking, but eventually grew out of it.
Despite rampant abortion, it does seem our children are trending towards their ideology, and its no doubt because of indoctrination of our government schools. That alone is one of our greatest threats to our freedom and way of life.
Sounds like an apples and oranges mixup. Levitt was talking about crimes committed BY unwanted children, not against them.
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The murdering of over 46 million unborn children is a legal “crime” - legal homicide.
I agree. The best method for analyzing and determining the drop in violent crime rates would be to look specifically at the economy, as well as the various types of violent crimes, and their numbers relative to each other. Changes in social mores, educational institutions in those areas, and immigration/migration patterns also play a role.
I for one think that a correlation between abortion and a drop in violent crimes may exist, but that doesn't mean that the correlation is the same as a direct cause and effect relationship. It is merely and interesting factoid without any real substance.
Of course, if we can borrow Karl Rove's "Alternate Universe Multi-Dimensional Television" set, we may be able to put the question to rest. In that case, we'd be able to identify babies aborted in this time line who weren't in other timelines, and develop statistics on how many of them became violent criminals... But Rove isn't likely to lend us his AUMD any time soon... Perhaps after the 2008 elections...
I wasn’t convinced by Leavitt’s hypothesis. He says abortion reduces the number of unwanted, illegitimate children who get a bad start in life. It is quite possible that abortion has actually increased the number of children conceived in reckless acts and born to single mothers and getting a bad start in life by changing social expectations and sexual morality. Certainly the illegitimacy rate has gone up since abortion was legalized and crimes of abuse against children have gone up.
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I don’t think either one of these theories is valid. They both correlate abortion with crime rates. They don’t provide any evidence of causation whatsoever. They also seem to mix abortion with birth control as the cause for more un-wed births. Abortion in my mind is a far different thing than using birth control.
Both make you think about how things may be related to other things, but neither is worth anything more than that.
For me, the bottom line is that abortion is wrong. Whether or not the crime rate increases or decreases as a result is irrelevant. Even if crime could be eliminated, it is wrong to kill an unborn child.
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I’ve been saying this for years.....expect the libs to rebut that “correlation does not mean causation”.
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