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You Call This a Home? (Shoddy construction claims on the rise agains new home builders)
http://finance.yahoo.com/real-estate/article/103341/You-Call-This-a-Home;_ylt=AhhoLiPGyc9WQ5E1AS7VJt ^ | 8-9-07 | Mara Der Hovanesian

Posted on 08/09/2007 8:22:13 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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1 posted on 08/09/2007 8:22:16 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: italianquaker

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2 posted on 08/09/2007 8:23:49 AM PDT by italianquaker (Obamas "spiritual advisor" said, ." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.)
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3 posted on 08/09/2007 8:24:44 AM PDT by italianquaker (Obamas "spiritual advisor" , ." On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.)
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To: Hydroshock

I wonder if these home being built by illegals has anything to do with it? If you want to build a shanty, hire a Mexican.


4 posted on 08/09/2007 8:28:08 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: Hydroshock

Just a bunch of whiners who aren’t willing to work for thirty years so some homebuilder executive is denied his right to sell his stock high. F ‘em./s


5 posted on 08/09/2007 8:28:42 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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MY wife and I are thinking about getting a new house in a year or two, we are both very hesitant to buy one made in the past 10 years.
6 posted on 08/09/2007 8:29:47 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock
Of course a lot of these so called “horror stories” are tortured out of thin air by predatory lawyers.

They’ve swooped into my neighborhood as we approach 10 years since most of it was built. Most of the complaints appear to me to be routine home maintenance. I feel like calling the builder and offering a deposition on the superior quality of my home.

7 posted on 08/09/2007 8:30:21 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Hydroshock

My cousin just bought this HUGE new obnoxious house built on a golf course. From the street it looks like a high quality palace, That is until you get up close and take a look at the fit and finish. what a mess.


8 posted on 08/09/2007 8:30:36 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Hydroshock
Let's take a look at the labor pool of these companies...You get what you pay for...


9 posted on 08/09/2007 8:30:47 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Hydroshock

Here’s something you and I can fully agree on. Most newer homes (built after 1990, really) are crap like this.

There are exceptions - typically if you see a home built outside of a “development” it was usually by a more qualified builder, but not always.

I honestly like older homes anyway for a multitude of reasons. Not so old that they have lead paint and bad wiring (although remodeling them isn’t always hard) but built before about 1970.


10 posted on 08/09/2007 8:31:48 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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The next boom for builders may be complaints from angry homeowners

Back in the summer of 1968 I worked for my step-dad who had a construction company (himself and a crew of 3). They built a complete house from laying the concrete in the basement, bricking the walls, building the trusses and the final cabinetry. But that was when builders built individual homes, not entire subdivisions........

11 posted on 08/09/2007 8:38:02 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (?)
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To: darkwing104

Agreed.


12 posted on 08/09/2007 8:38:39 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: darkwing104
I’m all for sending the Mexicans back home where they belong, but their work is only as good as the Builder expects.

Most builders are looking for a quick turn around, and that leads to sub par work.

I mean really would a contractor lie to ya? :)

BigMack

13 posted on 08/09/2007 8:39:11 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Hydroshock
My wife specializes in representing new home buyers. She does the full representation. We pick an appraiser (usually at half the cost of the developer's lender) and get an independent inspector (rarely done by new home buyers).

If you have an agent, the developer's sales rep will pay them. If your agent signs a comp agreement and disappears they are not doing their job.If you don't need or want an agent, at least get an inspection. Also, compare the total costs in the developer's lender's loan with one you can shop for yourself or through a broker. Usually, after the give backs are subtracted, you may still be ahead with another loan.

We've even seen new homes with mold. Someone left the water dripping behind the dry wall. I thought the construction supervisor was going to kill some one. The builder lost all their profit on that house doing the fix.

You may be able to search the net and get comments about various builders. Some are very reputable and other not. I can't give you more than that. Like anything else, buyer beware.

14 posted on 08/09/2007 8:39:38 AM PDT by pierstroll
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To: Hydroshock
MY wife and I are thinking about getting a new house in a year or two, we are both very hesitant to buy one made in the past 10 years.

Don't blame you a bit. Hold off on purchasing, until you can build a custom house with brick (if that's your taste), or can find an older one.

I don't know when, but I'd guess that sometime in the next 20 years, these modern-construction "houses" are going to fall apart. The thing is, I don't see how you can fix them. You can't replace a wall without tearing the rest of the house down.

The good news is, they can put these homes up in two days; the bad news is, they can put these homes up in two days. Cheap framing materials, covered by Tyvek, covered by cheap vinyl siding. How long can that last? Surely there's an engineering study somewhere that predicts how long?

15 posted on 08/09/2007 8:39:58 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: RockinRight

My wife and I are thinking of buying a new house in a year or 2. I am keeping my eye open, adn have seen a lot of houses made between 1970 and 1990 I like.


16 posted on 08/09/2007 8:39:59 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: RockinRight
I was fortunate enough to have seen my house built from the ground up by a local builder with an excellent reputation. Other then a few changes I made myself, I have no complaints.


17 posted on 08/09/2007 8:40:01 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Hydroshock

Three years ago I bought a house built in 1994. I cannot believe how shoddy the construction is. Large cracks already appearing in the ceilings, moldings separating, siding coming off in moderately strong winds, flashing coming off the chimney, uneven and weak subflooring under the carpets, drywall seams starting to show, etc. etc. This has been going on for a long time. Builders are smart, they know how to make a house look solid, but underneath the materials and techniques are as inexpensive as possible, and after a short period of time it shows.


18 posted on 08/09/2007 8:42:07 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Thanks anyway, Nancy, but we already have a Commander-in-Chief!)
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To: RockinRight

We completely remodeled an older home years ago in TX (built in 1932). It had charm, spacious rooms, beautiful hardwood floors and cost alot less than a new house did. Of course, we probably spent the difference or more remodeling, but did I mention it had charm???
;)
susie


19 posted on 08/09/2007 8:44:19 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

The only issue I have with a home that old is wiring and plumbing, and repairing those things without having to tear the whole damned house down!


20 posted on 08/09/2007 8:46:12 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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