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General cuts sentences of two imprisoned Marines (Hamdania)
San Diego Union - Tribune ^
| 8/7/07
| Rick Rogers
Posted on 08/07/2007 7:38:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Mattis is considering whether to cut short the prison terms for Pennington and Hutchins, Marine spokesman Lt. Col. Sean Gibson said Tuesday. Release them today.
To: NormsRevenge
FREE them all now!!! It’s not ENOUGH that we ask these great warriors to go to battle to keep US free now we make them second guess their actions. No this is just wrong and these young men should be given medals not time in the brig and worse. A Marine mom
To: Stonewall Jackson
The defense had evidence that a)the man was not who he was purported to be b)that he was a terrorist. The judge would not allow that evidence to be presented.
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posted on
08/08/2007 5:15:52 AM PDT
by
Eagles6
To: hsalaw
Deserves a picture...
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posted on
08/08/2007 5:32:32 AM PDT
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: Stonewall Jackson
The man they were looking for was a former Baathist, and the name of the man provided for trial was a suspected insurgent.
However, due to the complete lack of forensic evidence taken, and the fact that when the body was sent to the US for autopsy it was missing it’s head and the body description didn’t match the ‘family’ description, they could no longer identify who it was, therefore there is no clue as to the body’s previous life.
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posted on
08/08/2007 5:37:38 AM PDT
by
RaceBannon
(Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
To: NormsRevenge
From the North County Times
Mattis frees junior Marines
...Mattis, who can shorten sentences but not increase them, freed Pvts. Jerry Shumate Jr., 21, and Tyler Jackson, 23, out of a sense of fairness, a military spokesman said Tuesday...
Whatever it takes. He is also considering shaving time off Hutchins and Pennington's sentences.
...The family of the 23-year-old Massachusetts native [Sgt Hutchins family]
could not be reached for comment, but Brannon said Monday that they were meeting with Mattis to lobby for leniency.
Pennington's attorney, Carlsbad-based retired Brig. Gen. David Brahms, also declined comment Tuesday about efforts to have him freed early.
Pennington's mother said her family is "cautiously hopeful" his sentenced will be slashed.
"We have been praying for this for a long time," Deanna Pennington said....
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posted on
08/08/2007 6:31:29 AM PDT
by
Girlene
To: RedRover; freema
So lets see how close the good general will be up with them. At least he is moving in a general direction of having sentences dropped and jail time reduced for these Marines as well as those caught up in the Haditha charade.
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posted on
08/08/2007 12:42:35 PM PDT
by
Marine_Uncle
(Hunter in 2008)
To: Eagles6
Since the jury wasnt allowed to know who this poor, crippled grandfater and former saddam policeman was, will it be grounds for appeal? Courts Martial do not have juries, they have panels, or simply "The Court". The Judge is not "The Court" as in a civilian trial. The board of officers, and enlisted in the case of an enlisted defendant who wants them, is the Court. The Court is also both prosecutor and defense, in that they can ask direct questions of witnesses, unlike the jury in a civilian trial. They are also the jury of course, since they determine the facts in the case and how to apply the laws and regulations to those facts.
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posted on
08/08/2007 8:21:57 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: Eagles6
Since the jury wasnt allowed to know who this poor, crippled grandfater and former saddam policeman was, will it be grounds for appeal? Who was it that "didn't allow" the members of the court to know this?
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posted on
08/08/2007 8:24:21 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: El Gato
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posted on
08/08/2007 10:12:09 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
To: Eagles6
Thanks, but the prosecution witholding what it knows is not quite the same as someone not letting the Court know or consider as evidence, something. Close but not quite the same.
However it's an even bigger no-no in a military court martial than in a civilian one. In a civilian one, the prosecution isn't supposed to do that, but the defense can. IIRC, even the defense isn't supposed to do that in a military trial, as the "theory" is that both side, and the Court, are looking for the truth on a much less adversarial basis than in a civilian trial.
Of course the problem is that the JAGs are all trained in civilian law schools, with supplemental training by the military, by other JAGs that is. Eventually the rot seeps through.
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posted on
08/09/2007 1:32:37 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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