Report: Harsh Methods Used On 9/11 Suspect(Cry me a river barf alert)

Washington Post ^ | August 5, 2007 | Josh White, Julie Tate and Joby Warrick

[Califreak]

Michael Savage’s website has posted some of these atrocities for the ignorant masses who don’t know the real face of our enemies.

[Albertafriend]

For some reason your response and the picture it created in my mind just caused me to explode in a long, sustained and uncontrollable fit of laughter. It felt great!

[colorado tanker]

Unnamed Washington sources told Mayer that Mohammed said he was held naked in his cell, questioned by female interrogators to humiliate him, attached to a dog leash and made to run into walls, and put in painful positions while chained to the floor. Mohammed also said he was "waterboarded" -- a simulated drowning -- in addition to being held in suffocating heat and painfully cold conditions.

"Tantamount to torture" is not torture. Still, this was what McPain and his buddies were trying to prohibit the CIA from doing. DOD regulations forbid the uniformed services from using these techniques, but they have been permitted for CIA.

So, we might ask, why did McStain defame the uniformed services by accusing them of using "torture" when they didn't just to take away from CIA the stress interrogation techniques that caused KSM and his cronies to sing like canaries??? And this guy thought I would vote for him for Commander in Chief???

[DelphiUser]

I don't want tantamount. I want torture.

This was tantamount to an interesting story...

[DelphiUser]

I’d prefer the bullet between the eyes. That way his face is still recognizable. Then post his postmortem picture with every news outlet.

Death by liquefied pig fat transfusion...

We are Americans, we should show how innovative we are.

[Diogenesis]

No one will see them there.

Censorship now rules FR ... just like the MSM wants.
Islam’s murders are being whitewashed.

[ChocChipCookie]

Here's the predictablereply I got from one of the authors of the article:

Thank you for taking the time to write, as I always appreciate hearing from readers. As I'm sure you know, there have been several people convicted of Daniel Pearl's murder, and Khalid Sheik Mohammed is not one of them. If you read the New Yorker article, you will also see that there is great doubt about whether or not KSM was involved in that crime or not, as he has claimed responsibility for crimes officials believe he had nothing to do with.

That said, I don't know how appropriate it is to judge the actions of the United States against the actions of terrorists. If you want this nation to sink to their level, so be it, but Congress and the American people have thus far rejected that notion. Of course beheading people is grotesque, inhumane and illegal behavior; that in no way justifies the U.S. taking similar -- or even remotely similar -- action. As the world's leader in almost every aspect, this nation holds itself out as the beacon of light, a just and right nation setting the example for the rest of the world. If you feel that keeping men naked in extreme temperatures, causing them to believe that they are drowning and near death, chaining them in stress positions, sexually humiliating them and preventing them from having lawyers or contact with their family is how you would want U.S. soldiers treated if they were captured by a major world power, then the U.S. is acting appropriately, in your view. While KSM and others like him may very well be guilty of crimes against humanity and deserve harsh punishment, the last I checked he has not been tried in a court of law nor has been convicted of anything. For a member of a society that believes in the rule of law, you sure are quick to condemn a man before any evidence has been presented to a judge, jury, or court.

Just thoughts to consider.

Sincerely,

Josh White

[Bringbackthedraft]

It could have been a lot worse if we used the AQ Torture Guide.

[massgopguy]

By Kevin Bacon no less, which is forbidden by Islam.

[Bringbackthedraft]

“is how you would want U.S. soldiers treated if they were captured by a major world power” ????? This criminal represents which major world power? A world power did treat our soldiers that way too. Japan and N.Korea come to mind.

[tcrlaf]

Perhaps we shoul;d have used the Saddam Method, and fed him feet-first into a woodchipper until he talked?

Liberals seem to have no problem with SADDAM’s methods, right?

[MEGoody]

that in no way justifies the U.S. taking similar -- or even remotely similar -- action.

Uh, Mr. White, what action has the U.S. taken that is even 'remotely similar' to beheading?

[massgopguy]

That method leaves bullets that require the answering of inconvenient questions. Now, removing fingers one knuckle at a time gets one to sing like a bird and can be explained as a household accident.

[jpl]

There’s no question that this guy is one of the premiere fountains of information regarding the worldwide Islamist terror movement. But if there’s no more valuable information to be extracted from him at this point, then it’s really about time to put him before a military tribunal and execute him.

[The Great RJ]

I’m sorry they didn’t attach a telephone generator to his genitals, but probably couldn’t find any alligator clips that small. However, he could have been more severely tortured by being forced to work as Helen Thomas’ pool boy.

[colorado tanker]

how you would want U.S. soldiers treated if they were captured by a major world power

So, in the "mind" of this reporter if we use stress interrogation techniques against an AQ unlawful combatant that will lead to a "major world power" (all of whom signed the Geneva Conventions) using these techniques on our uniformed, lawful combatants? How does he get there???

Fact is if our people are captured by AQ, they won't be waterboarded, they will be brutally tortured and murdered. That won't change even if we put KSM up in the Presidential Suite at the Waldorf.

I guess Josh is also ignorant of the fact that our troops are trained in how to resist stress techniques, including waterboarding, at SERE school.

[JRjr]

I think they should have bought an industrial-strength “Epilady” and run that over his back. Anyone with that much fur would be a snap to interrogate.

[JRjr]

I think they should have bought an industrial-strength “Epilady” and run that over his back. Anyone with that much fur would be a snap to interrogate.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

Lets say that joshie found out that his “partner” had been kidnapped by 2 deranged escaped convicts and that one of them went out for food and got caught........but the other one still had joshies partner and it was known for certain that joshies partner was about to be slowly murdered in a grisly manner, according to the record of the convict who was still on the loose.......so joshie knows that at that moment his partner was enduring genuine torture and impending death......I would expect that joshie would demand to the police that the captured convict (who knows perfectly well where and what is happening to joshies partner) should be afforded his 5th amendment right and not coerced in any way to possibly save the life of joshies partner.

(I used “partner”, because I couldn’t imagine any other term in this instance, after reading joshies “sincere” PC spew)

Joshie doesn’t give a rip about American soldiers, he’s been at this and in the middle of bashing them for years
http://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-white130604.htm

[Doc91678]

Maybe the Progressive Marxist Leftists want the Feds to release him. This way he could develop more terrorist bombing techniques.
I for one, would rather be allowed to put a bullet in his head and charge his family for the cost of the bullet.
They do that in China and Russia and no one says a word about that.