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Sub-prime aftershocks will continue for years
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 03/08/2007 | David Litterick

Posted on 08/04/2007 4:44:59 PM PDT by aimhigh

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And from Europe: Harold Tribune
Shockwaves continue to rattle German banks after IKB bailout
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/03/business/gbank.php

FRANKFURT: Prosecutors in Düsseldorf and government regulators in Berlin are looking into how a German bank became overexposed in the U.S. subprime mortgage lending crisis, but stopped short Friday of announcing a formal investigation.

Smaller-scale shock waves continued to reverberate, however, even as financial heavyweights like Allianz sought to reassure their investors they would not be hit.

Union Investment Asset Management Holding, one of Germany's top three mutual fund managers, said it had halted redemptions from a fund holding subprime mortgages after clients withdrew about 10 percent of the assets in the past month.

Investors redeemed €100 million, or $136 million, from the €950 million ABS-Invest Fund, Markus Temme, a spokesman, said. The fund, sold to institutional investors across Europe, has about 6 percent of its assets in securities related to subprime mortgage loans, Temme said. Union Investment, which is owned by Germany's cooperative banks, has taken the steps "because of illiquidity in the market," he said.

1 posted on 08/04/2007 4:45:03 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

This train wreck is only starting.


2 posted on 08/04/2007 4:46:05 PM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: aimhigh

bump


3 posted on 08/04/2007 4:46:47 PM PDT by VOA
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To: aimhigh
DON'T WORRY THERE IS A MORTGAGE BROKER WHO COLLECTED A FEE ON THE FRONT END AND WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO A LIQUIDATION SPECIALIST ON THE BACK END....

WHY DOES THE GOVERNMENT IGNOR REGULATING THIS SLIME BALLS?

4 posted on 08/04/2007 4:46:51 PM PDT by pointsal (q)
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To: Hydroshock; Moonman62; ex-Texan

FYI ping


5 posted on 08/04/2007 4:47:06 PM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: aimhigh
LOL!

The US sub prime crisis - stopped reading right there.

some liberals - well all liberals under a GOP WH see a crisis in every event.

The media cranks it up and you good little drones feed on it like there is no tomorrow, along with the smoking man on the grassy knoll.

Don’t worry little ones, you will be told what to think LOL!


6 posted on 08/04/2007 4:55:07 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: aimhigh
"I have been and still short the investment bankers in America. I'm also short homebuilders.

Nothing like making a case for your own defense. "I'm short and the world will continue to end for many years."

7 posted on 08/04/2007 5:00:47 PM PDT by groanup (Limited government is the answer. What's the question?)
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To: bill1952; Grampa Dave
"Mr Rogers, a New York-based fund manager and former partner of George Soros,..."

I started laughing out loud right there!!!

8 posted on 08/04/2007 5:09:04 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The American DemocratICK Party... Filled with GANG-GREEN, like CA's Repub Governor!!!)
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To: Hydroshock
'This was one of the biggest bubbles we've ever had in credit' said Jim Rogers

Jim Rogers, a guy who once hit it big in the markets and now is a full time kook.

9 posted on 08/04/2007 5:21:42 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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I am not up on everything Rogers has said and done to make him a kook. But he was and is dead on with the commodities story and the BRIC story (Brazil/Russia/India/China). His two books where he went around the world are pretty interesting regardless of agreeing or not with his opinions formed from it.


10 posted on 08/04/2007 5:42:08 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: bill1952
The US sub prime crisis

Think back to the 1980's and substitute the words saving and loan with sub prime.

11 posted on 08/04/2007 5:47:16 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: bill1952
The US sub prime crisis

Think back to the 1980's and substitute the words saving and loan with sub prime.

12 posted on 08/04/2007 5:47:22 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: SierraWasp
I hope Sorass took a financial hit on it.....
13 posted on 08/04/2007 5:54:15 PM PDT by b4its2late (Don't get married. Find a woman you hate and buy her a house. It's a lot easier on you.)
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To: aimhigh

George Soro’s plan to drive down prices so he can gobble up more companies cheaply. Look for Soro’s to buy some home builder as soon as he can knock another 40% off the price.


14 posted on 08/04/2007 5:58:20 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Crimson Elephant
Commodities is the one thing he gets right. That's how he made his fortune back in the 70's. I don't like commodities as an investment, because the only time when they go up is when there is inflation and economic mismanagement.

These days Rogers will say whatever he can to get his name in print.

15 posted on 08/04/2007 5:58:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: CaptainK
Think back to the 1980's and substitute the words saving and loan with sub prime.

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Think back to the 90's and Clintoon, Reno, and their punk flunkie Deval Patrick. Does the "Fair Lending Act" ring any bells? The scars on this country left by Bubba and his posse will take generations to fade.

16 posted on 08/04/2007 6:00:30 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Hydroshock

Why? Sub-prime is only 15% of the housing market. So what if people now must have a down - that’s the way it has always been with no ill effects. One good effect of the sub prime, many people who could never buy a house bought one, and the majority of those loans are not in default.


17 posted on 08/04/2007 6:03:05 PM PDT by uscabjd ( a)
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To: CaptainK

Could be much worse. The Feds have been loose and fancy free on flooding the market with greenbacks. I have never seen money so easily loaned in my lifetime (I am sure my grandpa life too). Cash is King at the moment.


18 posted on 08/04/2007 6:03:12 PM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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I was just watching a panel on c-span on this. Defaults have increased from 7-15% in sub prime loans. This has been way over hyped. They are collateralized loans, after all. Those who went in without down payments have nothing to lose.


19 posted on 08/04/2007 6:51:08 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: aimhigh

I think that the best thing to do is absorb these defaults, and get those houses re-sold to someo who will make the payments. Nobody is making money on empty houses, so the most charitable thing to do is foreclose, and resell it as fast as possible.

The lending markets need to clean house, so it is no shame that some of these companies are going under.


20 posted on 08/04/2007 6:52:18 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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