What is Globalism and Why is it Bad?

The Christian Constitutional Society ^ | 4 August 2007 | Mark Moore

[jedward]

In case you haven’t been there lately, you might want to read all the way through that one, and the other that is linked in one of the posts.

[Paperdoll]

Thank you gentlemen. Free trade is healthy and desirable if the trading nations are on an equal par, and humanitarian assistance should be offered to a suffering nation, of course, but the welfare of foreign countries should be the at the expense of the American taxpayer on an individual basis, not a collective basis, which is unaccountable. Which is off subject somewhat, but an interesting concept.

[Blake#1]

I have relatives that live in China. They are American citizens. They own a factory that sells equipment all over the world. They just bought a 1 1/2 million dollar home, their kid goes to a private school that is taught in English. He pays top (for China) wages, average worker gets $500 per month. He just bought a Porsche and joined a auto club of Porsche owners. I could go on, however, I hope you get the idea. China is not what you imply. They are going crazy with capitalism and are about to overtake us. Isolationist Americans (you read like one)are going to let them take over the capitalist world.

[Iscool]

I have relatives that live in China. They are American citizens. They own a factory that sells equipment all over the world.

So what you are saying is that your relative sell his Chinese manufactured equipment to the U.S., Britain, France, Germany, Australia, etc...

And we know he sells the stuff at a price that is slightly less than what it would cost Americans, Aussies, Germans, etc. to produce that stuff in their own countries...

And he pay his employees at the top of the slave labor scale...

There are no OSHA regulations...No environmental regulations...No labor laws...So his overhead is as low as it could possibly be...

No unemployment benefits, no insurance benefits...

I say good for the guy...But if I was in charge, his products would be forbidden for sale in the U.S. and the rest of the free world...

[Blake#1]

You are the type that does not want global regulations. You are probably for free trade then? I am pointing out to you what the future holds for the USofA. The USofA finds away to compete with my relative or the USofA losses.

[Fitzcarraldo]

The Case Against World Government, by Walter F. Burns

[mnehring]

And he pay his employees at the top of the slave labor scale...

You need to be very careful about putting US standards and judging currency rates to foreign countries. For example, Blake said the employees were paid $500/month. If this was the US, I would agree, very close to slave labor, but this isn't the US. There is a thing called Purchasing Power Parity. Based on the PPP value of the yuan vs the dollar (for most industrialized areas in China) that $500US has the purchasing power of about $3800/month. Not great, but far more than the average Chinese employee and far in what would be considered 'middle class'.

[Iscool]

Agreed...But he didn’t say 500 dollars, American...I assume it was in the Chinese currency...

[hedgetrimmer]

Globalization is an economic principle that involves the ease of international trade (mostly based on technology improvements)

Globalization is a tool that advance globalism. 'Easing international trade' involves disempowering the citizens of a country from making decisions about who they want to trade with, and the circumstances under which they want to trade. 'Easing international trade' means giving transnational corporations the ability to bypass borders and inspections because they are all 'barriers to trade'. This is globalese for saying erase the border,and give supranational trade organizations the power to make all trade related decisions. It means "Don't stop us and don't impose any of your national rules on our operation".

This is not theory or speculation, it is demonstrated in FTA after FTA.

[hedgetrimmer]

Globalization simply put, means that you can buy something from someone across the globe.. that isn’t a threat to sovereignty

It is a threat to sovereignty when citizens aren't allowed to make the rules. For example,the WTO says you can't discriminate in trade, against a nation whose political system is different than yours. That opened up the door to trade with communist china and it has made them the most powerful manufacturing nation in the globe. What loyal patriotic American would want to trade with China, knowing that wealth would enforce communism as a viable political system? Why would we want to make a declared enemy wealthy with trade? It makes no sense with respect to sovereign nations, but the greedy globalists love trading with run down communist countries because of the availabilty of slave labor and the double and triple digit profits they can make.

That impacts our sovereignty severely, especially given the fact that we have outlawed slavery in our own country,but cannot descriminate against slave-labor countries under the global rules of engagement.

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is a threat to sovereignty when citizens aren't allowed to make the rules.

A citizen can choose to buy, or not buy. Sounds good to me. But then, unlike you, I believe in freedom.

What loyal patriotic American would want to trade with China, knowing that wealth would enforce communism as a viable political system?

The American can choose to not buy from China.

but the greedy globalists love trading with run down communist countries because of the availabilty of slave labor and the double and triple digit profits they can make.

Who is making double or triple digit profits? WalMart? LOL!

[hedgetrimmer]

A citizen can choose for his country to trade or not to trade with communists. That is the right of citizens. That is freedom.

[Toddsterpatriot]

A citizen can choose for his country to trade or not to trade with communists. That is the right of citizens. That is freedom.

I agree. A citizen can also choose not to buy from communists, even if their government allows them to.

[hedgetrimmer]

A citizen can also choose not to buy from communists, even if their government allows them to.

Who's the statist?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Who's the statist?

You are. You're the one who wants the government to restrict the choice of citizens. I want citizens to have the choice, not government.

[hedgetrimmer]

You're the one who wants the government to restrict the choice of citizens transnational corporations. I want citizens transnational corporations to have the choice, not government citizens.

Now we know what your philosophy really is.

[jedward]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1875567/posts?page=99#99

[neutronsgalore]

“You are. You’re the one who wants the government to restrict the choice of citizens. I want citizens to have the choice, not government.”

With tariffs they’ll still have the choice, they’ll just have to pay a lot more to make it. And the choice would be made steadily more expensive until buying domestic becomes cheaper.

[Toddsterpatriot]

The transnational corporations can import all they want, if the government lets them. But if the citizens don't buy the goods, they'll stop importing them. Let the citizens decide, Hillary.

Now we know what your philosophy really is.

Yes, I'm in favor of freedom. You keep proving that you are not.

[hedgetrimmer]

Yes, I'm in favor of freedom

What is free about using slave labor "free trader"?