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A Statement on Scott Thomas Beauchamp
The New Republic ^ | August 2, 2007 | The Editors

Posted on 08/02/2007 1:31:19 PM PDT by inkling

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To: wideawake

If ANY soldier wore a skull like a yarmulke, I’ll bet $1000.00 it was BEAUCHAMP HIMSELF!! What a hideous person.


21 posted on 08/02/2007 2:20:23 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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To: inkling

I just talked (a bit strenuously) to a local reporter who informed me when I said not being to trust reporting is a sad state of affairs, that that is a good thing.

Then he brought up the Spanish American War. Straight out of journo school...

So, if they don’t feel we need to trust their reporting, then they can write any darn thing they want.

No responsibility to report the truth.
And this kid didn’t see the problem!!!!


22 posted on 08/02/2007 2:22:22 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: inkling
Mr. Beauchamp: “I'm a writer... ”

William Muny: “Letters'n such?”


23 posted on 08/02/2007 2:24:12 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: inkling
All of Beauchamp's essays were fact-checked before publication. We checked the plausibility of details with experts, contacted a corroborating witness, and pressed the author for further details

So they fact-checked & verified the disfigured woman story before publication, but somehow missed that it happened before anyone arrived in Iraq? Uhh, what exactly did they ask?

Beauchamp's latest, a Diarist headlined "Shock Troops," was about the morally and emotionally distorting effects of war

And yet Beauchamp was acting like a psychopath before he ever arrived in Iraq. That sounds like a real powerful "distorting effect of war"

24 posted on 08/02/2007 2:27:07 PM PDT by sanchmo
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To: inkling

EXCELLENT! I consider this one to be on par with “no controlling legal authority”.

“a powerful contribution to the genre”.

As in:

Dan Rather’s effort to undermine President Bush used National Guard documents that, while inaccurate and counterfeit, were a powerful contribution to the genre.


25 posted on 08/02/2007 2:28:54 PM PDT by james500
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To: inkling
Three soldiers with whom TNR has spoken have said they repeatedly saw the same facially disfigured woman. One was the soldier specifically mentioned in the Diarist. He told us: "We were really poking fun at her; it was just me and Scott, the day that I made that comment. We were pretty loud. She was sitting at the table behind me. We were at the end of the table. I believe that there were a few people a few feet to the right."

----snip----

Scott and his sidekick are pukes.

Over the course of the war, we have tried to provide our readers with a sense of Iraq as it is seen by the troops.

So TNR relies on two pukes to get "a sense of Iraq as it is seen by the troops".

Nice work TNR. You puking liberal rag.

26 posted on 08/02/2007 2:34:28 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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To: inkling
Isn’t it curious that the journalistic left’s first thought, their knee jerk reaction, is always to blame, smear or otherwise demean their neighbors who are part of the military.

Why is it when I read these pieces that I alway get the feeling that “journalists” think our military is little more than a collection of ignorant fools with no options or evil Svengali with venal motive just waiting to drag this country into conflict for personal profit?

These are the people who claim to be the penultimate in understanding and tolerance? If they are what passes for Diogenes in our time, God help us all.

27 posted on 08/02/2007 2:43:58 PM PDT by mort56
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To: inkling

Either Beauchamp is telling the truth, in which case he’s likely to be court-martialed and sentenced to some hard time in that prison at Ft. Leavenworth, or he’s lying, in which case he’ll make a fine journalist who also enjoys a lucrative side-gig ‘discoursing’ at lefty gatherings.


28 posted on 08/02/2007 4:01:44 PM PDT by Clioman
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To: sanchmo

EXCELLENT point! The deal with mocking the woman, if true, happened in Kuwait BEFORE the horrors of Iraq had supposedly gotten to this guy! As you said, they fact-checked this (with whom?) and yet didn’t get the facts right about WHERE it occurred...especially when the whole thrust of the article was that “G W’s war made me do it”.


29 posted on 08/02/2007 4:02:23 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: inkling
OK, this is fascinating. First, the piece explains what was so important about his last essay:

Beauchamp's latest, a Diarist headlined "Shock Troops," was about the morally and emotionally distorting effects of war. The piece was a startling confession of shame about some disturbing conduct, both his own and that of his fellow soldiers.

In other words, it was about how being in a war zone for a period of time could cause otherwise good people to do bad things. They say they consider Scott a good man, so whatever he did bad was because of the "stress" of war.

But when they provide "verification" of the ONLY fact they could verify, we find that only 1 of the 3 facts in that story were true. The story was that Scott made fun of a disfigured woman in a base in Iraq during his tour.

But in fact, as they now admit:

They say the conversation occurred at Camp Buehring, in Kuwait, prior to the unit's arrival in Iraq. When presented with this important discrepancy, Beauchamp acknowledged his error. We sincerely regret this mistake.

So they DID make fun of a girl's appearance, certainly an evil thing to do. BUT, they did it in Kuwait, BEFORE THEY WERE DEPLOYED!!!

In other words, it wasn't the "pressure of war" that caused them to do this -- it's just the kind of man Scott was BEFORE he went to war.

So in fact his anecdote does NOT speak to how war makes people bad, it speaks to how bad people get married to reporters and get their lies published.

30 posted on 08/02/2007 4:08:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: inkling
Beauchamp admits making fun of a disfigured woman who was injured by an IED. Is there anything more despicable. (Other than a publication that publishes this admission as “a sense of Iraq as it is seen by the troops”>)
31 posted on 08/02/2007 4:42:34 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: wideawake
"This explanation is very carefully parsed. Beauchamp claimed that he and a group of fellow soldiers mocked a disfigured woman in a US occupied sector of Iraq. The truth seems to be that Beauchamp and one other soldier mocked this unfortunate woman in Kuwait"

This is why I don't understand TNR going to the mat for this loser. I don't care how much of an anti-war leftist tool you are, this is unbeliveably despicable. And this was BEFORE he went to Iraq and got all screwed up by "Bush's war for oil".

32 posted on 08/04/2007 9:17:17 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: ishabibble
What true “conservative” praised this total BS? Name just one.

Likely the same group of people who consider themselves the "true conservatives" and call actual conservatives "fascist neocons."

People like Ron Paul, Patrick Buchanan, Llewellyn Rockwell, Joseph Sobran, Robert Novak, Paul Craig Roberts, Charley Reese, Justin Raimondo, Tom Fleming and the whole crew of clowns who write for Chronicles, LewRockwell.com and antiwar.com.

33 posted on 08/05/2007 4:38:38 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: inkling
More has happened. TNR has released another statement. Here's the link. This article gives a link to The Weekly Standard. At the bottom of this article is a new response to TNR.
34 posted on 08/08/2007 3:28:14 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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