Brownback complains about Catholic slur

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[NYer]

as a recovering Catholic myself

Protestant Pastor Apologizes for Anti-Catholic “Whisper Campaign”

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[NeoCaveman]

If we don’t get passed the religious litmus tests, we are going to inaugurate Missus Clinton in 2009. Note: The above post should not be taken to imply that Brownback or Huckabee have a shot at the nomination. It just means we can't rip eachother apart over doctrine and then unify in November.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

What was Henry Kissinger’s famous quote about the Iran-Iraq war? It applies in Huckabee & Brownback’s case.

[Southside_Chicago_Republican]

People can support or oppose candidates for whatever reasons they choose—that’s what America is all about, right?—but the Rev. Mr. Rude (good name) is a bonehead.

[perez24]

“Recovering Catholics” are usually the most ignorant about Catholicism, and most virulent critics.

[wideawake]

Frankly, as a recovering Catholic myself

Reverend Rude is well named.

But Reverend Scumbag would be even more apt.

[FormerLib]

"Frankly, as a recovering Catholic myself, that is all I need to know about his discernment when compared to the governor's."

I don't know anything about his being a "recovering Catholic" but I can attest to this guy being a bigoted arsehole.

[joebuck]

Why should Huckabee apologize for something he had nothing to do with?

[Steve_Seattle]

Although I am a non-practicing Catholic, I'm very sensitive about the expression "recovering Catholic" and find it offensive. "Recovering Catholics" almost always cite one of two issues as reasons for their alleged childhood trauma: (1) the doctrine of hell, which is shared by evangelical Protestants; and/or (2) the Church's strict sexual morality which, in theory, is also shared by evangelical Protestants, except on the issue of contraception. But even on that issue, it wasn't very long ago that evangelical Protestants also looked with disfavor on contraception.

So I'm not sure why this particular pastor thinks his version of Protestantism is all that different from the kinds of beliefs rejected by most "recovering Catholics."

[Natural Law]

Those who claim to be or identify with “recovering Catholics” are for the most part those who cannot accept the fact that Church Dogma is and will remain the interpretation of God’s words, not be subject to redefinition and revision through a plebiscite process.

[PAR35]

Governor Huckabee should apologize

No, he shouldn't. He didn't say anything wrong, and is not responsible for the actions of the preacher in question.

I think this puts Brownback on the same level as Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.

[Redbob]

"Frankly, as a recovering Catholic myself, that is all I need to know about his discernment when compared to the governor's."

What a Rude thing to say...

[ThisLittleLightofMine]

I am not seeing a reason for Huckabee to apologize....he did not send the email. This is petty and divisive.

[AliVeritas]

I know what, Christians better get it together and fast.

We have evil itself to face.

I’m not playing this game.

[AliVeritas]

As a Catholic, I ask the same question. Huck just needed to advise him re: hurting the campaign... and more to the point, splintering Christians period. We’ve had enough of that. All I can do is pray.

[AliVeritas]

Not exactly... all they have is race, no scripture.
They bow to the shakedown and dollars.
When was the last time God came out of their mouths?

[sitetest]

“’I know Senator Brownback converted to Roman Catholicism in 2002,’ Rev. Tim Rude, pastor of Walnut Creek Community Church, wrote in the e-mail. ‘Frankly, as a recovering Catholic myself, that is all I need to know about his discernment when compared to the governor’s.’”

“Rude apologized Tuesday, saying he never meant to sound critical of Catholicism.”

Lying hypocrite.

[Talking_Mouse]

"I was careless in the first place with my words," Rude said in a statement. "I frankly agree theologically more with a Southern Baptist. In no way do I think a Catholic would not make a great president. In fact, if Governor Huckabee drops out of the race, I will support Senator Brownback."

Since it is Pastor Rude who issued the insult and Pastor Rude who apologized I do not think Gov. Huckabee needs to apologize. The Governor can make some innocuous comment of support of the truths shared by all Christian faiths, and single out the Catholics for extra kudos their continual and ongoing pro-life stance. Then this should blow over.

Let me also that "recovering Catholic" is a very pejorative term. I do not consider myself a recovering Protestant. I am a Christian, relying on the Holy Spirit to show me the riches of Jesus' wisdom. With that wisdom, I have been lead to the Roman Catholic Church (I know now that the Blessed Mother had been praying for me also). The Holy Spirit meets all of us where we are, to lead us on to a closer relationship with God the Father, God the Son, and Himself.

[Unam Sanctam]

I remember reading an article once about Trinity Church in Boston, a very left-wing mainstream Episcopal Church, where the pastor described the “recovering Catholics” in his congregation. I was very offended by that, but understood it coming from left-wing liberals who hate the Catholic Church. But to hear this from a believing Evangelical makes me think that the old “whore of Babylon” anti-Catholic mentality is not yet dead in Evangelical circles...