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Solzhenitsin slams West policy towards Russia
Voice of Russia ^ | 25.07.2007 | Voice of Russia

Posted on 07/26/2007 5:43:10 AM PDT by JohnA

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To: caver

Putin is trying to restore pride in his country. If he is more authoritarian, it is because traditionally, that is what the Russian people have wanted AND needed. They are a different mold from us, and cannot be judged by our standards of democracy.


21 posted on 07/26/2007 6:28:58 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861

“Putin is trying to restore pride in his country. If he is more authoritarian, it is because traditionally, that is what the Russian people have wanted AND needed.”

I’ve always known that, but have had a hard time understanding it. I used to think that all people are basically the same, but I learn more each day. It is hard to understand how the former Soviets can look back and yearn for the days of Stalin?


22 posted on 07/26/2007 6:32:26 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

Please provide Putin’s rank and job description while with the KGB.


23 posted on 07/26/2007 6:32:56 AM PDT by JohnA
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To: TexConfederate1861

They certainly have a different history than you do if that’s what you mean. And you have these two important historic allies: Pacific and Atlantic, yes?


24 posted on 07/26/2007 6:34:41 AM PDT by JohnA
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To: JohnA

“chatboards”

What country did you learn to speak like that?


25 posted on 07/26/2007 6:34:51 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot
forums if you want. I think they're valuable and obviously, so do you. I'm Canadian if that's what you're after.
26 posted on 07/26/2007 6:36:05 AM PDT by JohnA
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To: caver

Solzi was always a vehement nationalist and never really took the Kremlin to task for the genocide of 12 million Ukrainians and Germans in 1921 and 1932.

Neither did he ever credit the Gulag underground that was run by Ukrainians for saving his butt.


27 posted on 07/26/2007 6:36:55 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot; nuconvert
Nothing strange here: “True” Christian Orthodox always support the holy Russian Tsar, and now the Tsar is Putin. QED!
28 posted on 07/26/2007 6:37:00 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: JohnA
The trouble with chatboards is that nobody holds posters like you to the facts.

You,sir...I must admit...are correct.There are two glaring,despicable inaccuracies in my post.First of all it was Estonia,*not* Ukraine,that had its embassy blockaded by Russian punk thugs not long ago and it was Estonia,*not* Ukraine,that had its internet service brought to a halt while Moscow was beside itself with rage because a Russian monument,which represented the filthy repression that Estonians had suffered at the hands of the "USSR" for 50+ years,was moved by the government of the newly free people of Estonia.

And,second,it was *not* plutonium that was used by Russian agents,on *British* soil,to silence (permanently) a vocal and highly credible critic of Putin....it was polonium.

I'm hanging my head in shame...as I type...for having written such scurrilous,filthy lies about that fine gentleman in Moscow.

29 posted on 07/26/2007 6:37:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: caver

An interesting view. Not compelling but interesting.


30 posted on 07/26/2007 6:39:02 AM PDT by JohnA
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To: JohnA

“I suppose if you’d have been invaded a few times, and you took heavy hits,”

Another Kremlin Myth - it was Ukrainians and Poles that shed the most blood during WWII.

http://www.infoukes.com/history/ww2/page-29.html


31 posted on 07/26/2007 6:39:22 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: Gay State Conservative

I like Estonians. I daresay there are many Russians who do too.


32 posted on 07/26/2007 6:40:22 AM PDT by JohnA
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To: TexConfederate1861

“You might try visiting the country someday.”

Only my father and mother managed to escape in 1939 - we saw the rest of the family for the first time 30 years later.

I know the evil that Russia is.


33 posted on 07/26/2007 6:40:40 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: caver

Putin is not a Communist, he is a Russian nationalist. There is something in the Russian psyche that demands they must be a “maverick” country, just for the sake of being mavericks.

Churchill put it best, “Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.” That has not changed one iota.


34 posted on 07/26/2007 6:42:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: spanalot
You'd best check in with the Scots Regiments and historian, Norman Davies, on WWII.

What are your views on Genghis Khan and Napoleon Bonaparte?
35 posted on 07/26/2007 6:42:08 AM PDT by JohnA
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To: TexConfederate1861; Tailgunner Joe; Thunder90

Hey Tex - do you have a Russian wife by any chance?

“If he is more authoritarian, it is because traditionally, that is what the Russian people have wanted AND needed”

Are you including the 20 million Ukrainians that the Kremlin Killed?

You are clearly an agent of the Kremlin and I dont think you belong here.


36 posted on 07/26/2007 6:43:00 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: TexConfederate1861

“The Russian people are also the most SPIRITUAL”

BWAHAHAHAHA - you mean morally bankrupt.


37 posted on 07/26/2007 6:43:47 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: JohnA

“Please provide Putin’s rank and job description while with the KGB.”

Why? You go find it if you want to know.


38 posted on 07/26/2007 6:45:36 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: JohnA; Tailgunner Joe; Thunder90

John,

If you are Canadian, Why then are all your posts in support of Putie?

Methinks you are a Putietrolli.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=147871;more=48709547


39 posted on 07/26/2007 6:47:08 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: caver

he’s a troll.


40 posted on 07/26/2007 6:48:32 AM PDT by spanalot
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