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Norfolk and visitor with a holstered .45 are tangled in a Catch-22
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | July 22, 2007 | MATTHEW ROY

Posted on 07/24/2007 2:58:32 AM PDT by Daffynition

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City Attorney Bernard Pishko said the city is not attempting to challenge the state law by imposing restrictions on handguns.

Pishko described the gun ban in the Harborfest ordinance as an oversight, a "housekeeping" issue. "This is one that we missed," he said.

Are they claiming ignorance of the law of the state of VA? Oh brother .............

1 posted on 07/24/2007 2:58:35 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

The problem, is that these anti-gun nuts are used to pushing people around. It’s refreshing to see them getting pushed back.


2 posted on 07/24/2007 3:07:01 AM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: Daffynition

They are worried about guns in the proximity of free-flowing beer (sales of which Norfolk undoubtedly gets a cut). A better solution would be to triple the price of beer. This anti-gun ordinance sucks.


3 posted on 07/24/2007 3:07:25 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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Perhaps someone from VA could elaborate/comment on the the Virginia Citizen's Defense League (VCDL) ... apparently Mr. Szymecki is a member of that group.
4 posted on 07/24/2007 3:17:09 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition

This was posted several days ago...nice guy me can’t find the link.


5 posted on 07/24/2007 3:33:19 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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Sorry if it was posted ... I couldn’t find it in a search...someone will.


6 posted on 07/24/2007 3:41:13 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: tiger-one; Mad Dawg
Here it is. Sorry folks... and Mad Dawg.
7 posted on 07/24/2007 3:45:07 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868923/posts

Above URL is under different headline and has 320 replies.

8 posted on 07/24/2007 3:51:31 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Thanks ... I see that now. *;-(


9 posted on 07/24/2007 3:54:43 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Daffynition

This story only reinforces my feeling that they cops did not give this guy a chance to leave when they gave him the “choice”. I think that they intended to arrest him, did not intend to really give him a choice and were just CYA when they offered the “choice”.


10 posted on 07/24/2007 4:03:29 AM PDT by looscnnn (DU is VD for the brain.)
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“A better solution would be to triple the price of beer.”

Not. For those who want to drink, it won’t matter really, they’ll still buy six or whatever. They’ll just be in a worse mood.

Expensive beer would just penalize everyone for no reason. Sounds like a Dem solution really. ;-) Just like the “no beer” policies on the beach now in my home state - penalize everyone when there are already laws on the books against the behaviors that supposedly caused problems: public disturbance and drunkenness, urination, and DUI. But now, perfectly law abiding citizens can’t legally have a beer or a glass of wine with dinner during a beach cookout.

Folks carrying guns accept many limitations on their behavior if they’re responsible. Not drinking is one of them. Self control - what a concept.


11 posted on 07/24/2007 4:29:34 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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Perhaps someone from VA could elaborate/comment on the the Virginia Citizen's Defense League (VCDL) ... apparently Mr. Szymecki is a member of that group.

I too am a member of the VCDL. Our organization is probably the most successful state level grass roots gun rights organization in the country. We are always in the face of localities and legislators who seek to infringe on our rights in opposition to state law, and are extremely active in authoring & advancing pro-gun legislation. In fact 75 to 80% of the pro-gun legislation that has become law in the last 12 years has been either authored by or authored for the VCDL. We also actively (and I mean actively) oppose anti-gun legislation at the state and local level.

Recently we have been in the national news due to our opposition to NYC Mayor Bloombutt's illegal sting operations against gun dealers, and were successful in getting legislation passed that makes those stings a felony in Virginia.

We have also been in the forefront to get National Parks to authorize private carry as it is supported by state law.

What else do you want to know?

12 posted on 07/24/2007 4:48:16 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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"What else do you want to know?"

That's aplenty. Good on you and your organization for taking the fight onto the offensive, In states with "open carry", some folks actually need to carry openly (although I'm all for CCW).

13 posted on 07/24/2007 4:55:35 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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I’ve been thinking about things conservatives can do in civil disobedience, and I think massive open carry rallies would be great.
Like the homosexuals descend on Disney, gun owners should descend on a certain place, like Colonial Williamsburg, the Mall in D.C., etc. (public places).
The police wouldn’t know what to do in places where open carry is prohibited.
It would be a great way of taking back our rights.
14 posted on 07/24/2007 5:37:46 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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While I agree with the lawsuit, its a shame those that are responsible for causing it (the bureaucrats) will never feel the pain of any judgment. They will just whine about not having enough money and mug the normal taxpayers. :-(
15 posted on 07/24/2007 5:42:36 AM PDT by a02001 (Help the third world poor one person at a time- www.kiva.org)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Good point. Problem is, those who would cause problems never exhibit self-control.


16 posted on 07/24/2007 5:53:44 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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“The problem, is that these anti-gun nuts are used to pushing people around. It’s refreshing to see them getting pushed back.”

I’d much rather see them get the Sh** slapped out of them.


17 posted on 07/24/2007 5:57:29 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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“I’ve been thinking about things conservatives can do in civil disobedience, and I think massive open carry rallies would be great.
Like the homosexuals descend on Disney, gun owners should descend on a certain place, like Colonial Williamsburg, the Mall in D.C., etc. (public places).
The police wouldn’t know what to do in places where open carry is prohibited.
It would be a great way of taking back our rights.”

I agree with you, but then the open carry of Firearms needs to be done in public, on the steps of Congress.


18 posted on 07/24/2007 5:59:17 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: tgusa

Neither is a solution to anything, as both assume that everyone is a potential criminal and/or incapable of governing their own behavior.


19 posted on 07/24/2007 6:03:10 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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But now, perfectly law abiding citizens can’t legally have a beer or a glass of wine with dinner during a beach cookout.

And the net result will be that people just put clear vodka into a water bottle.

20 posted on 07/24/2007 6:03:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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