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Norfolk illegally arrests VCDL member!
Phil van Cleave - - VCDL email ^ | 07/19/07 | Phil van Cleave

Posted on 07/20/2007 5:11:30 AM PDT by Mad Dawg

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To: ontap
They are in Texas.

I guess its only natural to assume that all states do it. I don't have a problem with it from the standpoint that i would rather the LEO know that I have taken the necessary steps to obey the law when he pulls me over because the more comfortable he feels around me the better off we will both be. Nothing worse than a nervous cop

201 posted on 07/20/2007 8:10:43 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco
So you're saying that all CPL permit holders are flagged on our vehicle registrations?

NC also. Not on the registration but in the DL database.
When a cop walks up to your car he knows ahead of time you are a CPL holder. ( provided he has called your tag into dispatch.)

202 posted on 07/20/2007 8:10:46 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: ontap

That’s just one of the nice things about living in this country...we get to exercise our perogatives.


203 posted on 07/20/2007 8:11:09 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Old Professer

Not since my distant youth...


204 posted on 07/20/2007 8:11:48 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

Right on brother!


205 posted on 07/20/2007 8:12:15 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: laotzu
VCDL?

Viet Cong Drivers License?

206 posted on 07/20/2007 8:12:16 AM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: stuartcr

“don’t you think you are capable of pretty accurately knowing when and where you have a greater need to carry?”

Do you think that you need to have a firearm at a college campus? School? Church?


207 posted on 07/20/2007 8:15:09 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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To: Vinnie

Some other poster stated that if you have a CCW and alcohol is present/being served you must open carry. That may be the case at the festival that this happened at.


208 posted on 07/20/2007 8:17:12 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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To: B4Ranch

Yup. Fire extinguishers are kinda like guns, they both snuff out bad things.


209 posted on 07/20/2007 8:18:25 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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To: stuartcr

Correct, but yet you impose your own determination on others: “I don’t understand why anyone would carry open, at a family festival event, with so mny people in close proximity to each other. Having both hands pre-occupied, lends itself to having one’s weapon easily taken. Regardless of the lagality, I think it was a pretty irresponsible thing to do.”

So tell me, what constitutes close proximity? 10 feet, 20 feet, 30 feet?


210 posted on 07/20/2007 8:24:02 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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To: looscnnn

Got it.


211 posted on 07/20/2007 8:26:50 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: stuartcr

You didn’t in your post that you said “I don’t understand why anyone would carry open, at a family festival event, with so mny people in close proximity to each other. Having both hands pre-occupied, lends itself to having one’s weapon easily taken. Regardless of the lagality, I think it was a pretty irresponsible thing to do.” Not once in it did you state that is was his/anyones call and imposed your own opinion on whether or not he/anyone should carry in that situation.


212 posted on 07/20/2007 8:26:53 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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To: Smokin' Joe
>Imho, the law is the law, and if the man was not breaking it, the LEOs had no business busting his chops.<

LEO’s are not required to know all the laws, just be up todate on the ones the district wants enforced. When the city council is anti gun, the word goes out to bust anyone with a firearm, for the slightest reason.

Why should they care, it's not their money they stand to lose if the judge says, oops Officer, you're wrong. The local news puts the verdict on page 44 in small print and life continues until the people elect a new council.

213 posted on 07/20/2007 8:39:59 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Vinnie
Why wouldn’t he simply conceal in the first place?

Because it is illegal. We here in Va have demonstrated that we are among the most law-abiding of citizens. If we started breaking the law en-mass it would give the left the ammo they need to begin restricting our ability to carry even further.

214 posted on 07/20/2007 8:40:37 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: ontap

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868923/posts?page=213#213

>Me thinks this is systemic , originating from the top and this man now has a good chance of slapping their hands an maybe causing a court order for them to cease and desist. Something that will kick it a little further up the chain if they choose to keep on doing it.<

Sure it is. In some areas finding a judge that will make the correct decision is difficult and do you have a 100K for attorneys that you are willing to invest in correcting the system. If you don’t like the decision, you can appeal it for another 200K.

That’s where the gov’t has the power. They use our money to fight us to take our rights away from us. For me to spend 200K on lawyers I have to earn and tuck away at least 300K because the IRS wants their share before I go to court. That is enough to make me take notice and think about the probabilities of just how much I am willing to invest if I am going to see it through to the end.


215 posted on 07/20/2007 8:51:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: B4Ranch

Rodney King did not have anything!


216 posted on 07/20/2007 9:03:46 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Mad Dawg

Not once is the VCDL identified-—good writing...good writing.


217 posted on 07/20/2007 9:20:08 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: stuartcr
The police are everywhere, on foot, on bicycle, stationed at every corner.

When seconds count call 911.

218 posted on 07/20/2007 9:21:17 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Rudder

Virginia Citizens Defense League

It’s been identified about three times in the posts.


219 posted on 07/20/2007 9:25:31 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: beltfed308

It’s amazing how people are willing to put their lives in someone else’s hands, even the police.


220 posted on 07/20/2007 9:27:50 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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