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"Truth be told" about Chimp-Human DNA comparisons (1% difference a "myth")
Access Research Network ^ | July 2, 2007 | David Tyler

Posted on 07/10/2007 10:17:24 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: Vaquero
Thanks for the inner beast pic Vaquero. Mrs. jimfree and I had a party for some friends recently - - took them to a performance of The Tempest" and then we went to our place and played the DVD Forbidden Planet. Great fun. "That is all."
61 posted on 07/10/2007 11:46:42 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: sanchmo

And those 20,000 protien coding genes and 37,000 microRNA’s are just happenstance. Boil lava, dirt and water, throw in thousands of meteor impacts, wait billions of years for them to form tens of thousands of genes and microRNA’s in a nice neat baby sized package, feed, clothe and change the diapers, and here we are! All grown up and no creator needed. Sort of like a paper and pencil writing out how to reproduce itself and then doing it, and throwing in the works of Shakespeare on the paper as well. All that is needed is enough time . . .


62 posted on 07/10/2007 11:48:04 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: sanchmo
Thanks for the information!
63 posted on 07/10/2007 11:50:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: RFC_Gal

OK. Whatever you say. Feel better now?


64 posted on 07/10/2007 11:51:16 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: GodGunsGuts
What was Heston thinking! Yuck!!!

Ummm...probably, "Must remember, no frenching!"

65 posted on 07/10/2007 11:51:56 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a coverup for evil, but as GOD's servant.)
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To: xzins
I'm sorry to hear of her difficulties and lift your daughter-in-law's sister up in prayer!

I think the math of genetic make-up will demonstrate that the combinations, permutations, and expressions of such genetic things goes far beyond a mere number count of genes.

I couldn't agree with you more, dear xzins!

66 posted on 07/10/2007 11:52:56 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: SMARTY

If you don’t believe in evolution, that is your prerogative.

But because I do, doesn’t make me a liberal - I’m farther to the right than most people on this forum. But I am also a biologist. The biological evidence that supports the theory that simpler life forms evolved into more complex life forms fills volumes of texts. No biologist ever suggested that humans evolved from monkeys. At least 100,000 of existence as a distinct species (Homo sapines) and millions of years of evolution as more primitive hominid ancestors separates us from our closest relatives, the anthropoid apes, and even more time from any common ancestor with a monkey. In sense, your comments about “oceans of blood” is accurate.

Biologists who try to prove that evolution indicates that we are the product of a series of fortuitous genetic “accidents”, and hence there is no Creator and no Divine Plan, are straying as far from science as theologians stray from theology when they infer the Bible is a reliable source of information on matters of science.
I believe in evolution, the Bible and God and have no problem reconciling those beliefs.

Theologians should stick to theology and scientists should leave theology to theologians.


67 posted on 07/10/2007 11:58:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Researchers are finding that on top of the 1% distinction, chunks of missing DNA, extra genes, altered connections in gene networks, and the very structure of chromosomes confound any quantification of "humanness" versus "chimpness."

This is an entirely misleading article. The claim is that there is a difference of 1% in the DNA SEQUENCE, not in the "genetics" or "chromosomes" or "genes"....so the entire argument is a big fat strawman. However, the article then goes on to note that "on top of the 1% distinction"....thereby showing that there still IS a 1% distinction.....in the DNA SEQUENCE. Thusly, the 1% is not a myth. It's fact, plain onle DNA-sequencer generated fact.

THEN, based on a calculation that I'd LOVE to see...he comes up with a "whopping 6.4%" number. Really....is a 6.4% "difference", considering all the parameters he looked at, REALLY a "whopping" number?

68 posted on 07/10/2007 12:01:42 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The arrogance of some people, to think that a difference of 1% in a measurement could possibly mean that there is a difference of 1% between the two species. Now it has been shown that the measurement was wrong. When will scientists finally try to find the truth, instead of trying to proving something?
69 posted on 07/10/2007 12:04:21 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Greg F

THAT’s a KEEPER!!!!


70 posted on 07/10/2007 12:05:03 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: SMARTY

Everyone’s a critic.


71 posted on 07/10/2007 12:09:23 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: SengirV

Whatever you say.


72 posted on 07/10/2007 12:10:57 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Genomewise, humans and chimpanzees are quite similar.


73 posted on 07/10/2007 12:14:18 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: stinkerpot65
Evolutionists, environmentalists, and liberals in general lie as a matter of course.

That's a pretty sad and degrading thing to say about scientists who happen to study the theory of evolution.

And its also a lie.

74 posted on 07/10/2007 12:18:37 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Porterville

“Really, science isn’t that hard to understand.”

It’s not a matter of inability to understand, but unwillingness. Most people want to believe what they want to believe. That probably applies to most of us who believe in evolution, too.


75 posted on 07/10/2007 12:24:43 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: SMARTY

You made a joke, I followed with another joke. I don’t see the problem.


76 posted on 07/10/2007 12:33:01 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: Oberon; curiosity
I have read both Origin of the Species and The Descent of Man. My understanding of these works and other documents by Darwin created the opinion I posted.

Others have different opinions. Some agree with mine.

Speciation does not deny creation. Creation does not deny speciation. Whither the Dodo? Is the starting lineup at a NASCAR race the finishing lineup? Why are there Asians, Slavs, Europeans, Africans, etc.; when there were only Adam and Eve at the beginning? Who can know the mind of God?

77 posted on 07/10/2007 12:34:12 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: js1138
Congratulations. You have inspired your natural audience.

Why did you find it inspiring?

78 posted on 07/10/2007 12:34:38 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God! Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: SMARTY
"Don’t know, don’t care. We are different and we are BETTER than monkeys. You ain’t going to talk me around that."

Best example of glorified, self imposed ignorance I've ever seen. Bet you think yur purdy smart with your skool edumication, too.

79 posted on 07/10/2007 12:35:10 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30

Ha! Whatever you say. Suit yourself.


80 posted on 07/10/2007 12:37:26 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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