Posted on 07/09/2007 11:09:29 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
I’ve never understood how the ‘swimming diapers’ are effective at keeping fluids and fecal matter from the pool water. I actually do not use public pools for that very reason. It’s been years since my family went to a water park or pool. EColi is nothing to mess around with.
Repeating PC mantras does not make them so. You go ahead and allow your child to swim in swimming pools with HIV carriers. Be my guest. No child in my care would ever be allowed to do so. In fact, I think it might be a good idea to keep kids out of public pools, for a variety of reasons, until they are in high school and have developed immunity to any number of nasty bugs.
No. But there is a difference between doing something knowingly and unknowingly. If he is sues by other visitors for KNOWINGLY endangering them, what defense would you offer him?
Contagious deseases, fine. Deadly diseases, not fine. My kids are healthy and can get healthy after picking up a harmful virus or whatever. I understand about all the public facilities etc. but the Hell if I will knowingly let them be around AIDS/HIV that is just straight up asking for trouble, why risk it? Why should the park owner risk it? Just thinking about the lawsuits is something should happen alone...
There ia an HIV + child in my community. It is well known she is HIV + due to the fund raisers held for her. Since she is known to the community, is Blockbuster responsible for making sure her DVD's are sterilized? Is Safeway responsible for making sure that the carts are cleaned? Are local restaurants responsible for making sure the table she eats at is sterlized? All of these places know of her condition, as they have participated in fund-raisers. Can they be sued also for knowingly endangering the public? Although she does not attend a public school, if she did could the school be sued for allowing her to attend and exposing others?
There are more ways than one can count to be exposed.
I picked up an especially virulent form of food poisoining when I was 8 months pregnant. My child was born ill and remained so for a very long time. To this day I believe that I contracted it from a public restroom. Too many people do not bother to wash their hands and then they grab the door handle on their way out. I haven’t touched a bare door handle in nearly 20 years.
I am not quoting PC mantra but simply stating scientific fact. No person has ever contracted HIV from non sexual activity in a swimming pool. That is simply a fact and cannot be disputed.
As for my personal beliefs, I would be more concerned about my kids ingesting E.coli bacteria in a pool than HIV. Reason being that E.coli can stay alive for a very short amount of time in chlorinated water and HIV cannot. Again, that is fact.
BTW-I have had friends with HIV who have interacted with my children and at one point in college had a housemate with HIV and both me and my children were never at risk of contracting HIV for the simple reason that we did not have sex with, nor share needles with people infected with HIV.
The bottom line is the kids have a much greater chance of being hit by lightning while in a swimming pool than they do of contracting HIV.
However, your kids do have as much chance of contracting HIV in a swimming pool as they do being snatched from the pool by a swooping Pterodactyl and carried off to Asia.
Sorry to hear that, fortunately you and your child recovered. My wife makes us wipes down the grocery carts every time we go to the store. Being a good mother I guess. :)
My defense would simply be that he isn't endangering them. You can't get AIDS from sharing a swimming pool with an HIV+ person. It's not possible.
Well yes, but more than that. HIV is actually pretty darn difficult to transmit under the best of circumstances. Moreover, it dies very quickly outside of the body and Greg Louganis bled very little.
Although I wouldn't recommend it, you could go swimming in a pool of HIV+ blood, and your odds of getting infected would be surprisingly low (assuming you don't have any open sores).
Tens of millions of people around the world have HIV, and yet, there has been not one single reported case of anyone getting it from a bathroom or a swimming pool.
I’d be more concerned of people not catching it in the water but outside the water. there’s alot of slippery concrete around pools, 2 yr olds do what 2 yr olds do, they wander of a bit, mingle with other 2 yr olds, fall, bleed, ect. A child that young with HIV doesn’t have the knowledge to protect others from themselves.
You can't get HIV from an HIV+ person spitting on you. The odds of you getting HIV from an HIV+ person after being scratched, bitten or bled on are extremely small -- and that's assuming that the kids are HIV+.
What's the kid going to do, give your kid an involuntary blood transfusion?
Even with tens of millions of people living with HIV, there has not been a single reported case of anyone contracting HIV from a restaurant, a swimming pool, or any other public facility. Catching HIV is a bit more difficult than I think you think it is.
Fecal coliform bacteria can exist outside the human body.
HIV can't.
Your odds of getting a bacterial infection from a kid at a swimming pool are small but not insignificant. It's effectively impossible for anyone to get HIV at a pool.
Unless the two year old bites you!!!
Have you ever seem the way two year olds kids play these days while is a swimming pool?
They have unprotected sex
They share dirty needles to shoot drugs
They even have been know to give each other blood transfusions while in the pool.
Things have changed so much from the time when I was two.
I can be bit by a two year old kid walking down the street.
Should we then ban kids with HIV from waking down the street?
I wouldnt want my 2 yr old with a fresh cut on his knee playing with an infected 2 yr old who may have fallen 5 mins ago with a cut on his hand. they’re 2 year olds. I know the chance is very small but still with my luck.....
First, this is a case of a child that people know has been diagnosed with HIV. Since you cannot know in most cases who does and does not have HIV, then your question is not reasonable. Second, people are going to be in much closer proximity to this two year old while in a pool at an RV resort than would be the case of anyone walking down a city street. And, if your not observant enough to avoid a rabbid two year old while walking down the street, then you deserve to get bit. Before you get on your high horse about people being observant in a swimming pool consider that most people are not constantly watching what someone else’s child is doing while in a pool. And children tend to gravitate to other children for play, presenting a potential for another child to be bitten by this one. And, yes, I’ve seen a two year old bite a person (primarily other children) on numerous occasions. Do you wish to take that chance where you know the two year old has the HIV virus? Sorry, but I do not. No need to continue to post irrational comments to me.
Since you’re such an Einstein and oh so much more intelligent than us hicks why don’t you explain it all.
Why does “no shirt, no shoes, no service” work, but not “AIDS, no service”?
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