Posted on 07/08/2007 7:13:18 AM PDT by Dysart
There's that dumb ass statement again.
Excellent post, vetsvette.
Good fences make good neighbors.
Tried and true.
I don’t like to pay income tax, but I do it because it’s the law.
I tend to agree with you. We are being invaded and all members of the military are sworn to protect our country. (As is the President & Congress)
Do you want to cede part of Texas to Mexico? You can not builld a fence IN a river. If it is built on this side of a river, how far inland must it go to get beyond the flood stage? Who pays for the land that must be lost? The rancher who asked about watering his cattle in the river has a good point. That may be the only water close by.
But, hey, let's build a fence. Private property is not important. If they own land, they must have gotten it illegally, by using illegals, so just take it over.
Bush hasn’t been the only president since 1986, amigo. NONE of them have enforced it.
You are so correct. They need to try a different type of “fence”.
Put barbed wire in the middle of the river along with sensors, then monitor it 24/7.
See, that wasn’t hard.
Like the reporter sooner or later someone talks out of their butt.
For the past ten years are so the united states government has had a cost sharing program where they pay farmers to fence cattle away from running water and put in pumping and a watering system. They pay 95% of the total cost (some get 100%) in some cases, and they pay 75 dollars an acre per year for the amount of land lost if it is planted in trees and not used. So there is no water concerns it is just BS for those who don't know.
During the Cuban Missile Crisis the 49th Armored Division (Texas National Guard) was mobilized into Fort Polk, La. One of the Galveston’s Moody clan was called up as a bitter ER (Army Enlisted Reserve) to help fill our ranks. I was on the staff of the company of which he was assigned. He was really a snob! Within a week of his sign in we received a telegram from Vice President Lindon Johnson directing us to have the Moody child at the Fort Polk air field at a specific time to be picked up by a plane that would ferry him to Houston. It was the last we saw of him. Needless to say, all the other Er’s had to stay until we were demobilized.
I haven’t been across our southern border in a couple of years but the last time I did I walked over and back. A trip to Laredo always meant a trip to El Mercado in Nuevo Laredo. There were a few gringos walking across but coming back to the US there was a huge crowd. I showed my drivers license and walked through, I don’t know what the Mexicans were showing but they walked through too. Maybe they were shopping on our side and walked back to NL, maybe not.
D-Fence PING!
Fact Sheet: The Secure Fence Act of 2006
White House News
President Bush Signs Secure Fence Act
In Focus: Homeland Security
“This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure. It is an important step toward immigration reform.”
- President George W. Bush, 10/26/06
Today, President Bush Signed The Secure Fence Act - An Important Step Forward In Our Nation’s Efforts To Control Our Borders And Reform Our Immigration System. Earlier this year, the President laid out a strategy for comprehensive immigration reform. The Secure Fence Act is one part of this reform, and the President will work with Congress to finish the job and pass the remaining elements of this strategy.
The Secure Fence Act Builds On Progress Securing The Border
By Making Wise Use Of Physical Barriers And Deploying 21st Century Technology, We Can Help Our Border Patrol Agents Do Their Job And Make Our Border More Secure. The Secure Fence Act:
Authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along our Southern border;
Authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help prevent people from entering our country illegally;
Authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce our infrastructure at the border.
Comprehensive Immigration Reform Begins With Securing The Border. Since President Bush took office, we have:
More than doubled funding for border security - from $4.6 billion in 2001 to $10.4 billion this year;
Increased the number of Border Patrol agents from about 9,000 to more than 12,000 - and by the end of 2008, we will have doubled the number of Border Patrol agents since the President took office;
Deployed thousands of National Guard members to assist the Border Patrol;
Upgraded technology at our borders and added infrastructure, including new fencing and vehicle barriers;
Apprehended and sent home more than 6 million people entering America illegally; and
We are adding thousands of new beds in our detention facilities, so we can continue working to end “catch and release” at our Southern border.
“SO, JORGE, WHERE’S THE FENCE??”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061026-1.html
Nascar only runs so many days a week for entertainment.
I think refreshments, paint balls, rock salt , etc. given to bored kids or other interested volunteers would work.
If the volunteers were shot at with live ammo, let them defend themselves.
An effective and entertaining method both to those working the fence and those who would like to watch.
This is of course with appropriate protection to protect them while passing time among friends.
The cost of maintaining the fence/border would be minimal.
Yea right.
Did anyone notice that there is only one keyword relating to immigration popping up on the front page today? Last week we had four or more....what happened?
Although the question and answer are both off topic:
A fence is only the first step, it is the single step that most of us believe would indicate some degree of seriousness on the part of our government. It has as much symbolic value as real value and it will continue to be opposed by the powers that be. (and the ranchers quoted in this article certainly seem to be part of the 'powers' and not part of the masses who have to pay the price for being invaded.)
Second, third, and fourth steps, which should already be in effect but have been shamefully under utilized, are employer sanctions, follow up and enforcement of visa limits, and repatriation of criminal aliens.
Still needed are stiff penalties on both the illegals and their home countries that would reduce the benefits of sending agents into our territory. That starts with denial of the free medical and welfare access provided today: at the end of each fiscal year, the culpable foreign government(s) should receive a nice note telling them that the cost of their citizen's humanitarian treatment in the US is being deducted from any aid, trade, or disaster funds they'd have received if they'd honored our sovereignty in the first place.
(If they come from a rare state that we don't send money to - assuming there is one - take it from the UN in the name of that state.)
Absolutely NO alien should be allowed to legally transfer money 'home' unless the US receives punative taxes, applies and enforces a hard ceiling on the amounts that can be shifted, and severe oversight (with detailed records) of the banking institutions involved.
Further needed is a return to the US policy of not recognizing dual citizenship - if mexico wants to grant citizenship and voting rights to 'mexican-Aericans' US citizenship should be denied any takers.
The Fourteenth Amendment must be reinterpreted back to its intended purpose and 'family reunification' dropped from the vernacular unless the legal resident can prove the ability to support more than a spouse and offspring born in the US. Anchor babies should retroactively lose any claim to US citizenship.
What we don't need to do is to marginalize any of the ethnically mexican Americans whose families have been in the US since before many of our European ancestors, immigrants who made the transition legally, or (sadly) those given amnesty in the last go-round.
Finally, although mexico is the prime offender and the most apparent enemy in this matter, clearly calling for the lion's share of effort by the US government - illegal immigration must address OTM criminals, whether terrorists or prospective nannies, as well.
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