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Expert: Nuke terror better than even bet [AMERICAN HIROSHIMA]
World Net Daily ^ | July 6, 2007

Posted on 07/06/2007 4:23:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: CarrotAndStick
All the former Soviet Republics have signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. When you sign you must declare yourself either a Nuclear Weapons State or a Non-nuclear Weapons State. You are treated differently under the treaty depending on which type of declaration you make.

Of the former Soviet republics, only Russia has declared itself a Nuclear Weapon State.

If either Kazakhstan or Ukraine had nuclear weapons they would be violating the treaty. While we are all adults here and realize that sometimes countries violate treaties they sign, in this case it seems very unlikely.

81 posted on 07/06/2007 7:28:19 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Occam's razor. It doesn't work 100% of the time, but 99%+ is not too shabby.)
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To: kabar

WE don’t deserve it.

Do YOU? Do I? Do all the other patriotic Americans who can’t overwhelm the stupid?

Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity. And I’m not sure about the Universe.


82 posted on 07/06/2007 7:28:36 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: RockinRight

Yes. But they are also a command economy. Plus, once the Chinese internal market starts to sustain itself, then what?

I know, the situation is way more complex than the reasoning I’ve proposed. Very interesting times ahead!


83 posted on 07/06/2007 7:28:52 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: RockinRight
It would also cripple China.

they can absorb more damage

84 posted on 07/06/2007 7:29:42 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: Cheburashka

Wouldn’t one or two of those former Soviet republics have the facilities and the scientists to whore one out to the terrorists? The number of bombs Ukraine had until 1996 was huge- about 5000 units or so.


85 posted on 07/06/2007 7:31:10 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve thought since 9/11 that if they were smart, they’d do as many simultaneous attacks as possible on smaller, second and third-tier cities. Hitting NYC and DC is one thing, and certainly bad enough, but it’s very far removed from most of America. Hitting places like Cleveland, Buffalo, Baltimore, Des Moines, Milwaukee, Portland, etc. would be, I think exceedingly frightening in a way that hitting NY, DC and LA might not be.


86 posted on 07/06/2007 7:39:31 AM PDT by ravensandricks (Jesus rides beside me. He never buys any smokes.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Oops, what I meant to say was that with the amount of investment the rest of the world has put into China, a conflict with it is one thing they will try to avoid.

True enough, but that works both ways. One would assume that China would also try to avoid such a conflict, which would threaten their economic viability. FYI: China holds the world's largest foreign debt, i.e., foreign debt owed to non-residents and repayable in foreign currency.

Wouldn’t an embargo with China instantly cripple the manufacturing base of most companies? Most everything has a ‘made in China’ tag these days.

Maybe, but the world's biggest exporting nations by far are Europe, the US, and Japan. It would not be the end of the world if China were to be taken out of the equation. It would take time to adjust and the global economy would suffer a recession at the very least, but what would happen inside China would be catastrophic.

This Chinese threat will only grow with no one being able to steer or mitigate it.

As I said, it is a two-edged sword. Will China risk its growing prosperity and affluence to pursue policies that could plunge the country into economic ruin and political instability? What is the risk versus the reward?

87 posted on 07/06/2007 7:40:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: CarrotAndStick

And Kazakhstan is islamist...


88 posted on 07/06/2007 7:40:42 AM PDT by null and void (A large gov't agency is more expensive than a smaller agency with the same mission, yet does less)
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To: ravensandricks

They might opt to hit Middle America - places like Omaha, Wichita, Cincinnati, Denver.


89 posted on 07/06/2007 7:42:14 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: RockinRight
WE don’t deserve it. Do YOU? Do I? Do all the other patriotic Americans who can’t overwhelm the stupid?

The WE I am referring to is America. If the majority of the people vote for this course of action/policy, then WE deserve to suffer the consequences. I don't agree with the results, but unless we change the Constitution and the way our government works, then we must accept [not without a fight] the results. We must become a majority so we can use the democratic process to change the direction of the country.

90 posted on 07/06/2007 7:46:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Here’s the plan:

Sterilize all Muslims and self-proclaimed liberals.

Arm ourselves.


91 posted on 07/06/2007 7:47:30 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: kabar

Yes, valid points there. The situation is complex. Economies today are such that they would avoid a war to prevent a cold. China is also avoiding confrontation... for now.

As for foreign debt, does their holding of over a trillion dollars in foreign exchange help them?


92 posted on 07/06/2007 7:47:42 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The more I watch “Thunderball” and “True Lies”, it is amazing how Hollywood has provided assistance to these mooslem nutballs. Any city is at risk once within the border. Our Govbernment is very limited on detectin radioactive devices once it is loaded on a small truck the size of these Hicubes rented by Budget, Penske, or Hertz.

Just stay off the Interstates and your choices are unlimited.


93 posted on 07/06/2007 7:50:09 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: RockinRight

Have a nice day.


94 posted on 07/06/2007 7:51:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: CarrotAndStick
As for foreign debt, does their holding of over a trillion dollars in foreign exchange help them?

It helps them by giving them capital to develop their economy. Their foreign debt is about $250 billion and their official reserves are around $625 billion in foreign exchange, SDRs, IMF, and gold at market prices.

95 posted on 07/06/2007 7:56:25 AM PDT by kabar
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To: CodeToad
“If the device uses smuggled material, it will probably be used close to the border crossing,

...yet another reason to move out of south San Diego County...

96 posted on 07/06/2007 8:00:26 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: kabar

I really remember seeing a trillion-plus dollar figure for their FE reserves. Anyway, thanks for the information!

CHINA

Reserves of foreign exchange and gold:
$1.034 trillion (2006 est.)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html#Econ


97 posted on 07/06/2007 8:01:13 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Mrs.Liberty

“...yet another reason to move out of south San Diego County...

As though you really needed another reason.


98 posted on 07/06/2007 8:16:14 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CarrotAndStick
Could very well be. The Economist 2007 pocket handbook figures were based on the last official figures in 2004. I should have included that footnote.
99 posted on 07/06/2007 8:34:46 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

World Net Daily ignores the safety of the Ford Taurus. The Ford Taurus will keep your family safe.


100 posted on 07/06/2007 8:40:27 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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