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French Wine Growers In Crisis
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7-5-2007 | Henry Samuel

Posted on 07/05/2007 4:31:59 PM PDT by blam

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To: pissant

Yes, I have had many good reds from California. I also like Australian, New Zealand, Portuguese, Spanish and South American wines. I also like NY whites.


41 posted on 07/05/2007 5:32:40 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Alter Kaker

Also, a lot of these farmers are probably salt of the earth people who have no quarrel with us. It has been the big-city elites of France and their mediots who have been anti-American. Not necessarily so out in the countryside. I know that several Freepers over the years have commented that they were well-treated in France outside the big socialist cities. I don’t doubt that.


42 posted on 07/05/2007 5:32:43 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Alter Kaker

If I didn’t have moronic glee, I wouldn’t have no glee at all.


43 posted on 07/05/2007 5:34:09 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Dutch Boy

I’m partial to Italian and American, though I’ve had some tasty spanish wines as well. I buy 75% Washington state though.


44 posted on 07/05/2007 5:36:00 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: blam
"Someone is pocketing the difference and we want to know who," he said.

It's the American oil companies :-)

45 posted on 07/05/2007 5:39:53 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: pissant

With all this wine talk I have an urge to open a bottle.... Now I have to choose..... That is the hard part....


46 posted on 07/05/2007 5:40:14 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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... we should remember that France has just elected a President and a Chamber of Deputees that is fiercely pro-America and supports the war on terror.

Me thinks you're getting a little carried away here ... fiercely pro-American? The French have never been fiercely pro-American, even on D-Day plus one on June 7, 1944. It really has more to do with what degree they tolerate Americans ... since Chirac is gone they've warmed up somewhat ... but only slightly.

47 posted on 07/05/2007 5:40:23 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: blam
"Someone is pocketing the difference and we want to know who," he said.

Considering that this is Europe, you know that the taxman is getting a very healthy cut.

48 posted on 07/05/2007 5:41:02 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: xJones
The EU has an annual budget of 1.3 billion euros (£880 million) to help the wine sector but currently spends around 500 million euros a year simply getting rid of wine for which there is no market.

I would like to know why it takes so much money to get rid of so much wine? I know a lot of people who would dispose of it for them for free.:)

Count me in! The subsidies explain why it seems like French wine costs less in my neighborhood grocery store than in Paris or the countryside. Personally, I'm all for French taxpayers subsidizing my vices. If only the Belgians would subsidize Trappist beer!

49 posted on 07/05/2007 6:00:07 PM PDT by Entrepreneur
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To: blam

I get no satisfaction, no Schadenfreude, no Joie de Dommages from this. French wine growing is a part of western culture and tradition. It’s just more erosion of a great heritage.


50 posted on 07/05/2007 6:01:54 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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Hell, I’ll bet you can get a member of the U.S. Congress to agree with those claims. One nutbag does not an anti-American administration make.


51 posted on 07/05/2007 6:02:08 PM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF

Nobody said that the French Government was “anti-American”—what I responded to with a poll of French public opinion and the video of a French Minister’s statement that Bush may have been behind 9/11 where the poster said the French had a “fiercely pro-America” government. Perhaps you haven’t read the posts completely, but do you believe the French government and electorate are “fiercely pro-America”? I wish they were. The facts show otherwise, and telling ourselves that they are “fiercely pro-America” is not factual. Just responding with facts.


52 posted on 07/05/2007 6:15:30 PM PDT by bajabaja
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To: denydenydeny
Considering that this is Europe, you know that the taxman is getting a very healthy cut.

Yup. You got it right here...

53 posted on 07/05/2007 6:20:00 PM PDT by John123 (Bill barely mentions Hillary in his memoirs... I will now light myself on fire)
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To: blam

I never allow moronic prejudices of nativists and other ignorami to affect my choices when it comes to practicing sin, such as alcohol consumption. Geez, what could be worse than being a chauvinistic sinner?!

And, by the way, French wines are good and available at reasonable prices nowadays. Why suffer your already miserable existence without them?


54 posted on 07/05/2007 6:33:54 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Malesherbes
French wine growing is a part of western culture and tradition

Really good French wine is rarely matched elsewhere, and never exceeded. A really bone dry, crisp, genuine chablis, a fine mellow balanced red bordeaux, a rich but delicately balanced white burgundy these are as good as it gets.

55 posted on 07/05/2007 6:33:58 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Alter Kaker

To little, to late I say.


56 posted on 07/06/2007 3:41:06 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: pissant

TX is making wines that are cheaper and better then anything from Frogistan.


57 posted on 07/06/2007 3:43:01 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: bajabaja

“The last paragraph says that, in Nov. 2006, the most recent polling I can find on the net, the “pro-American” French believed the US’s current efforts against terrorism were negative (45%) versus positive (37%).”

In other words about the same as Americans. I thought the French were much more against the war in Iraq than they actually are apparently.


58 posted on 07/06/2007 8:26:50 AM PDT by monday
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No, the question was not about Iraq. The question was about whether the US’s actions generally, that includes such factors as an alliance with Israel, the war in Afghanistan, etc., had an impact regarding terrorism.

More French think think that the US’s actions generally with respect to terrorism are negative than those who think it is positive.

Let’s not mix Bordeaux grapes and Chardonay grapes. Apples to apples my friend/.


59 posted on 07/06/2007 9:08:30 AM PDT by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja

“More French think think that the US’s actions generally with respect to terrorism are negative than those who think it is positive.”

Still more positive than I would have expected, all things considered. I still can’t figure out what you are whining about. I think it’s good news that only 45% of France thinks the US’s efforts against terrorism are negative. I would have guessed it was more like 95%.


60 posted on 07/06/2007 10:10:28 AM PDT by monday
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